1 00:00:03,830 --> 00:00:02,450 there are everyday actions to help 2 00:00:06,140 --> 00:00:03,840 prevent the spread of respiratory 3 00:00:08,419 --> 00:00:06,150 diseases wash your hands 4 00:00:10,970 --> 00:00:08,429 avoid close contact with people who are 5 00:00:11,780 --> 00:00:10,980 sick avoid touching your eyes nose and 6 00:00:14,660 --> 00:00:11,790 mouth 7 00:00:17,390 --> 00:00:14,670 stay home when you are sick cover your 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:17,400 cough or sneeze clean and disinfect 9 00:00:20,929 --> 00:00:19,050 frequently touched objects with 10 00:00:29,410 --> 00:00:20,939 household cleaning spray for more 11 00:00:32,359 --> 00:00:29,420 information visit cdc.gov/tips station 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:32,369 hey guys Ryan here and before we get to 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:34,050 this week's episode I have to warn you 14 00:00:38,810 --> 00:00:36,690 it's going to be a movie review episode 15 00:00:41,420 --> 00:00:38,820 I'm joined by my good friend and fellow 16 00:00:43,369 --> 00:00:41,430 mysteries decoded co-star and you're 17 00:00:47,060 --> 00:00:43,379 Sanford and we're going to be discussing 18 00:00:49,369 --> 00:00:47,070 the 2013 sci-fi horror film dark skies 19 00:00:52,220 --> 00:00:49,379 so if you haven't seen the film press 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:52,230 pause on this episode and go watch it's 21 00:00:58,279 --> 00:00:55,410 available on iTunes vudu hulu live TV 22 00:01:01,099 --> 00:00:58,289 and amazon give it a watch and then come 23 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:01,109 back for our very spoiler heavy review 24 00:01:06,109 --> 00:01:03,690 in great probably too much painful 25 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:06,119 detail but hey it was a lot of fun and 26 00:01:10,850 --> 00:01:08,850 it is also a super fun movie and we had 27 00:01:13,070 --> 00:01:10,860 a blast reviewing it and if you're 28 00:01:14,780 --> 00:01:13,080 self-quarantine like we are it's a good 29 00:01:17,899 --> 00:01:14,790 way to pass the time and stay connected 30 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:17,909 with people so I hope you enjoy a review 31 00:01:22,610 --> 00:01:20,970 as we venture bravely somewhere in the 32 00:01:27,380 --> 00:01:22,620 dark skies 33 00:01:27,390 --> 00:01:31,390 [Applause] 34 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:34,730 this is somewhere in the skies the 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:35,950 brains bud 36 00:01:55,810 --> 00:01:52,930 [Music] 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:55,820 welcome to a very special episode I am 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:01:58,250 titling somewhere in the dark skies 39 00:02:02,710 --> 00:02:00,410 that's right today we are going to be 40 00:02:05,490 --> 00:02:02,720 reviewing the movie dark skies with my 41 00:02:07,930 --> 00:02:05,500 good friend fellow podcaster 42 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:07,940 cryptozoologists in all are just amazing 43 00:02:19,090 --> 00:02:09,890 guy and you Stanford how's it going 44 00:02:21,550 --> 00:02:19,100 buddy to another human being who is it 45 00:02:24,940 --> 00:02:21,560 my poor poor wife who's been trapped in 46 00:02:27,010 --> 00:02:24,950 here with me for those who don't know we 47 00:02:29,020 --> 00:02:27,020 are in lockdown here in New York City so 48 00:02:31,510 --> 00:02:29,030 we are not allowed to really leave our 49 00:02:34,450 --> 00:02:31,520 apartment so you know it's not as 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:34,460 Thunderdome esque as people think but no 51 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:37,250 we definitely it's it's an interesting 52 00:02:42,070 --> 00:02:39,200 energy right now I don't know about you 53 00:02:43,210 --> 00:02:42,080 know here in Queens it's silent I mean 54 00:02:45,940 --> 00:02:43,220 you can hear the train going by 55 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:45,950 obviously a short again but yeah how are 56 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:49,280 things up in a Manhattan it's it's 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:51,290 interesting and I'm in the Washington 58 00:02:55,390 --> 00:02:53,090 Heights area we're actually fairly close 59 00:02:58,449 --> 00:02:55,400 to a hospital so we do here 60 00:03:00,910 --> 00:02:58,459 sirens pretty often but it's police cars 61 00:03:04,150 --> 00:03:00,920 it's fire height they're fire trucks 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:04,160 it's everything but we it is pretty dead 63 00:03:10,540 --> 00:03:07,250 and also like not as dead as I would 64 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:10,550 like it to be like we still like there's 65 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:12,650 still people my wife and I we went for a 66 00:03:15,430 --> 00:03:13,310 walk 67 00:03:17,350 --> 00:03:15,440 god this was the last week at this point 68 00:03:19,030 --> 00:03:17,360 that shows the most recent time I went 69 00:03:23,410 --> 00:03:19,040 for like a full walk was almost a week 70 00:03:25,090 --> 00:03:23,420 ago yeah right well I've been trying to 71 00:03:27,009 --> 00:03:25,100 go up to my roof on it I'm lucky enough 72 00:03:29,020 --> 00:03:27,019 that my apartment building has like a 73 00:03:31,449 --> 00:03:29,030 roof that I can access fairly easily so 74 00:03:35,460 --> 00:03:31,459 I ate ramen up there the other day just 75 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:35,470 to break the monotony good change my 76 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:39,650 exactly and we went for a walk and there 77 00:03:43,330 --> 00:03:41,360 were just people this is probably the 78 00:03:45,190 --> 00:03:43,340 day before we got the shelter-in-place 79 00:03:47,410 --> 00:03:45,200 order which for those who don't know 80 00:03:50,650 --> 00:03:47,420 it's basically saying that you don't 81 00:03:53,110 --> 00:03:50,660 leave your apartment or your home except 82 00:03:55,630 --> 00:03:53,120 for things that you absolutely need to 83 00:03:57,070 --> 00:03:55,640 do which is to if you want to exercise 84 00:03:58,300 --> 00:03:57,080 like going for a run it's fine and 85 00:04:00,250 --> 00:03:58,310 they're things like that they just want 86 00:04:01,390 --> 00:04:00,260 you to stay away from people and if you 87 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:01,400 need to go to the grocery store 88 00:04:06,670 --> 00:04:03,650 obviously like the next morning I 89 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:06,680 actually went to the grocery store at 90 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:08,870 I am when it opened just so I could 91 00:04:14,199 --> 00:04:12,290 avoid being around other people which I 92 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:14,209 know people usually get up at like 6:30 93 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:16,130 and stuff like that it's been my clock 94 00:04:20,529 --> 00:04:17,930 is all over the place right now so does 95 00:04:22,749 --> 00:04:20,539 it challenge but it was worth being in a 96 00:04:26,140 --> 00:04:22,759 fairly empty grocery store but we go for 97 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:26,150 this walk and there are people at the 98 00:04:31,990 --> 00:04:29,690 park near us playing volleyball on this 99 00:04:33,070 --> 00:04:32,000 court and so they're literally passing 100 00:04:35,469 --> 00:04:33,080 around something that they're all 101 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:35,479 touching at the same time and then lined 102 00:04:40,390 --> 00:04:37,759 up on the side as if waiting to play are 103 00:04:43,650 --> 00:04:40,400 like 10 to 12 people I'm not 104 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:43,660 exaggerating shoulder-to-shoulder 105 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:47,050 just standing there waiting to play 106 00:04:54,370 --> 00:04:51,130 taking my head right now it is it is 107 00:04:57,490 --> 00:04:54,380 very frustrating but it's one of those 108 00:04:59,140 --> 00:04:57,500 things where you like it's unfortunately 109 00:05:01,390 --> 00:04:59,150 it just is what it is and there is a 110 00:05:03,390 --> 00:05:01,400 reason we have been called the epicenter 111 00:05:05,860 --> 00:05:03,400 of all this let's just put it that way 112 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:05,870 but I do not envy you because apparently 113 00:05:09,969 --> 00:05:08,000 Queens is getting it the hardest so 114 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:09,979 please stay safe it's been a red zone 115 00:05:14,230 --> 00:05:12,650 here which is a little scary but you 116 00:05:16,149 --> 00:05:14,240 know I'm doing the same thing man I I 117 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:16,159 haven't left the apartment in two days 118 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:19,430 and I I will only go out to get 119 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:21,440 groceries or to you know wander around 120 00:05:26,170 --> 00:05:23,570 the block a few times just like you said 121 00:05:28,860 --> 00:05:26,180 in the monotony get some whatever fresh 122 00:05:31,300 --> 00:05:28,870 out of New York City has ever had and 123 00:05:34,060 --> 00:05:31,310 it's it's the same here man 124 00:05:35,589 --> 00:05:34,070 you you walk by areas that people 125 00:05:38,170 --> 00:05:35,599 usually congregate and there are still 126 00:05:40,899 --> 00:05:38,180 people out there I just don't get it and 127 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:40,909 these are the people traveling and 128 00:05:45,820 --> 00:05:42,800 spreading it to other places so New York 129 00:05:48,339 --> 00:05:45,830 City right stopping dumb stopping 130 00:05:49,990 --> 00:05:48,349 stubborn New Yorkers and just stay in 131 00:05:52,450 --> 00:05:50,000 place that's all I could say that right 132 00:05:54,850 --> 00:05:52,460 by New York people out there but yeah 133 00:05:56,860 --> 00:05:54,860 and and I know it's hard to but it's 134 00:05:58,689 --> 00:05:56,870 just something that we got it's it's 135 00:06:01,390 --> 00:05:58,699 only gonna get harder if it has to go 136 00:06:03,159 --> 00:06:01,400 into August and September and things 137 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:03,169 like that we're looking at like a maybe 138 00:06:08,620 --> 00:06:05,930 maybe some sort of normalcy in July 139 00:06:10,089 --> 00:06:08,630 unless certain people force us to open 140 00:06:14,740 --> 00:06:10,099 up ahead of time but we don't need to 141 00:06:16,779 --> 00:06:14,750 get into that right now if at best-case 142 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:16,789 scenario I think we're looking at maybe 143 00:06:20,620 --> 00:06:18,050 close to end of July 144 00:06:23,170 --> 00:06:20,630 hopefully for things to 145 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:23,180 return to some sense of normalcy yeah 146 00:06:29,490 --> 00:06:25,010 maybe the cure I've been working on with 147 00:06:32,950 --> 00:06:29,500 vanilla extract and cocoa butter and 148 00:06:34,390 --> 00:06:32,960 flour will work it tastes great I don't 149 00:06:36,930 --> 00:06:34,400 think it's gonna cure anything but I'm 150 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:40,810 I've got the trappings of good chocolate 151 00:06:52,390 --> 00:06:49,850 chip cookies going well before we uh 152 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:52,400 before we get to the movie we're gonna 153 00:06:57,070 --> 00:06:54,080 be talking about Andrew I'd be seeing 154 00:06:58,870 --> 00:06:57,080 roasting a lot about this phenomenon 155 00:07:01,000 --> 00:06:58,880 that's going around Netflix right now 156 00:07:04,690 --> 00:07:01,010 that I have not checked out and I gotta 157 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:04,700 ask you what is Tiger King and why 158 00:07:14,500 --> 00:07:12,800 should I by the name of Joe exotic and I 159 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:14,510 remember hearing about him for the first 160 00:07:23,230 --> 00:07:17,090 time on an episode of last week tonight 161 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:23,240 back in 2016 when he was going on a 162 00:07:28,420 --> 00:07:25,280 certain political run I don't want to 163 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:28,430 spoil anything but this man was an 164 00:07:34,780 --> 00:07:32,510 attempted politician he was also he owns 165 00:07:37,210 --> 00:07:34,790 what he claims to be the largest tiger 166 00:07:43,180 --> 00:07:37,220 zoo in North America or possibly the 167 00:07:48,220 --> 00:07:43,190 world in Oklahoma and he is very 168 00:07:50,740 --> 00:07:48,230 flamboyant proudly so has a big ol 169 00:07:55,540 --> 00:07:50,750 mustache a mullet where his fancy 170 00:07:56,980 --> 00:07:55,550 clothes fanciful anyway and he is this 171 00:08:00,160 --> 00:07:56,990 isn't too much of a spoiler he is 172 00:08:04,060 --> 00:08:00,170 currently in prison and I originally 173 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:04,070 heard about him about a little over a 174 00:08:09,010 --> 00:08:06,890 year ago there is a podcast called over 175 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:09,020 my dead body which is a great podcaster 176 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:11,810 did a special on this man on Joe exotic 177 00:08:15,580 --> 00:08:13,970 series which I think they have students 178 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:15,590 taken down which is smart because I 179 00:08:20,350 --> 00:08:17,690 think they're like re releasing it to 180 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:20,360 just capitalize on the fame that this 181 00:08:24,790 --> 00:08:22,490 documentary is brought on but there's a 182 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:24,800 documentary series currently on Netflix 183 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:28,150 seven episodes long fascinating watch 184 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:31,130 incredibly trashy incredibly crazy and 185 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:32,930 something that you literally like you 186 00:08:36,459 --> 00:08:34,490 can't turn away 187 00:08:39,610 --> 00:08:36,469 and it's got hills and valleys and I 188 00:08:41,529 --> 00:08:39,620 will say if people can try to re listen 189 00:08:45,130 --> 00:08:41,539 to the podcast there's elements of the 190 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:45,140 podcast that I liked a lot more but to 191 00:08:48,850 --> 00:08:47,330 see these people and also some other 192 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:48,860 people that they introduced into the 193 00:08:54,699 --> 00:08:51,760 story as part of all this he's it's 194 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:54,709 fascinating and it was for those of you 195 00:09:00,160 --> 00:08:57,290 who have watched it my wife and I when 196 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:00,170 we finished the series she is just this 197 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:03,050 wonderful hilarious and supportive 198 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:05,570 person and she was like we should dress 199 00:09:09,610 --> 00:09:07,850 you up like Joe exotic and take some 200 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:09,620 pictures she's like cuz you got a wig I 201 00:09:13,660 --> 00:09:11,690 got a I got some shirts and I was like 202 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:13,670 oh absolutely and she's like yeah maybe 203 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:15,050 we can do that tomorrow I was like no we 204 00:09:18,130 --> 00:09:16,610 should do it like like right now like 205 00:09:19,930 --> 00:09:18,140 literally we finished the last episode 206 00:09:23,290 --> 00:09:19,940 and went and snap some pictures which 207 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:23,300 are currently on my twitter at sanford - 208 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:27,200 son or on my on her instagram joy dot 209 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:29,120 mayweather there's like you can find him 210 00:09:32,019 --> 00:09:30,830 you can track him down oh yeah I'm 211 00:09:40,329 --> 00:09:32,029 looking at it way you know on your 212 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:40,339 Instagram she's a genius she is better 213 00:09:45,340 --> 00:09:42,170 than my better half and it's something 214 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:45,350 that like she had the idea and I thought 215 00:09:47,860 --> 00:09:46,610 it would just be kind of fun I was like 216 00:09:49,269 --> 00:09:47,870 yeah I'll throw the wig on she's like 217 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:49,279 now we got tied back so it looks like a 218 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:50,690 mullet we got to do this we got to do 219 00:09:56,860 --> 00:09:55,130 that she taped little safety pins to my 220 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:56,870 ears to make them look like earrings 221 00:10:01,540 --> 00:09:58,490 like she is she went the whole night 222 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:01,550 she's she's she's a wonderful person and 223 00:10:06,090 --> 00:10:03,650 we've got a budding costume designer in 224 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:06,100 the making yeah exactly 225 00:10:10,780 --> 00:10:08,570 okay well I'm definitely gonna check it 226 00:10:14,890 --> 00:10:10,790 out it's next on my list there's so much 227 00:10:18,069 --> 00:10:14,900 time to finally consume no more than we 228 00:10:20,110 --> 00:10:18,079 could ever possibly consume but oh yeah 229 00:10:22,540 --> 00:10:20,120 looking forward to it but I'm getting 230 00:10:26,740 --> 00:10:22,550 back to your podcast no you are a master 231 00:10:30,190 --> 00:10:26,750 of horror review podcasting you do a lot 232 00:10:32,139 --> 00:10:30,200 of this every every October can you tell 233 00:10:33,370 --> 00:10:32,149 us a little about what shock Tober is 234 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:33,380 yeah absolutely 235 00:10:41,260 --> 00:10:36,050 so my podcast have what some of the 236 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:41,270 black man is usually a we take an improv 237 00:10:46,060 --> 00:10:43,730 spin to the news of the week me and my 238 00:10:47,019 --> 00:10:46,070 three main hosts who are currently 239 00:10:48,910 --> 00:10:47,029 McHale Paige 240 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:48,920 Erin Leigh Schmoyer and Jamie lamp 241 00:10:53,439 --> 00:10:51,529 three very funny people we sit down we 242 00:10:55,210 --> 00:10:53,449 take some news items from the week I 243 00:10:57,069 --> 00:10:55,220 throw some negative stories at them they 244 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:57,079 got a spin into me in the positive or I 245 00:11:02,319 --> 00:10:58,850 give them just a headline and they got a 246 00:11:05,739 --> 00:11:02,329 fill out like the story for me on the 247 00:11:09,309 --> 00:11:05,749 spot and or no and or and it doesn't 248 00:11:10,749 --> 00:11:09,319 matter we we do like a top three which 249 00:11:12,369 --> 00:11:10,759 is like a listicle type thing where we 250 00:11:15,849 --> 00:11:12,379 do our top three favorite things in a 251 00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:15,859 certain topic we are on a smidge of a 252 00:11:19,539 --> 00:11:17,809 hiatus right now because it's hard to 253 00:11:22,449 --> 00:11:19,549 get us all in the same room which is how 254 00:11:25,389 --> 00:11:22,459 I like to do the podcast with my 255 00:11:27,789 --> 00:11:25,399 wonderful engineer gauge engineer and 256 00:11:29,829 --> 00:11:27,799 producer but every shocked over every 257 00:11:32,019 --> 00:11:29,839 October I completely throw the purpose 258 00:11:34,269 --> 00:11:32,029 of the podcast out the window and we 259 00:11:36,460 --> 00:11:34,279 talk about horror movies this year in 260 00:11:38,499 --> 00:11:36,470 particular Mikhail and Jamie and this is 261 00:11:40,749 --> 00:11:38,509 before Jamie joined as a full-time host 262 00:11:44,919 --> 00:11:40,759 came on and we're on almost every 263 00:11:49,659 --> 00:11:44,929 episode they had to watch several some 264 00:11:51,069 --> 00:11:49,669 very scary some not so great and then 265 00:11:52,509 --> 00:11:51,079 sit down talk to me about them and they 266 00:11:54,699 --> 00:11:52,519 are not paying horror movie watchers 267 00:11:56,139 --> 00:11:54,709 themselves I think the most horror 268 00:11:59,350 --> 00:11:56,149 movies Mikael has watched it's been 269 00:12:01,989 --> 00:11:59,360 doing the podcast back through the years 270 00:12:04,929 --> 00:12:01,999 the podcast will is over five years old 271 00:12:07,269 --> 00:12:04,939 at this point that has been my favorite 272 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:07,279 part of doing the show if we go back 273 00:12:13,059 --> 00:12:09,110 we've got episodes with you that are 274 00:12:14,259 --> 00:12:13,069 fantastic just and we used to do where 275 00:12:18,069 --> 00:12:14,269 it would be like we've talked about 276 00:12:20,139 --> 00:12:18,079 three episodes three movies in episode 277 00:12:21,819 --> 00:12:20,149 you actually have you and Nick Westar 278 00:12:23,799 --> 00:12:21,829 Myer another good friend of ours have 279 00:12:28,629 --> 00:12:23,809 the record for there was one episode 280 00:12:30,789 --> 00:12:28,639 where we talked about six movies that 281 00:12:32,529 --> 00:12:30,799 went out of my memory yeah that's fair 282 00:12:38,049 --> 00:12:32,539 well we were drinking while we did that 283 00:12:40,629 --> 00:12:38,059 one I remember that pretty okay in the 284 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:40,639 office of one of my own one of the 285 00:12:46,090 --> 00:12:43,730 places I used to work we sat down and we 286 00:12:47,949 --> 00:12:46,100 talked about a movie and it's remake so 287 00:12:50,139 --> 00:12:47,959 it was like the fly and the remake of 288 00:12:53,289 --> 00:12:50,149 the fly the demons and the remake of 289 00:12:55,150 --> 00:12:53,299 night of the demons and invaders from 290 00:12:56,889 --> 00:12:55,160 Mars and the remake of invaders from 291 00:12:58,500 --> 00:12:56,899 Mars I can't believe I remember all of 292 00:13:03,240 --> 00:12:58,510 those that was 293 00:13:06,270 --> 00:13:03,250 yeah some of those years ago oh brother 294 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:06,280 yeah if right now night of the demons is 295 00:13:12,390 --> 00:13:09,340 currently on Amazon I believe it is not 296 00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:12,400 a good movie but it is can I swear on 297 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:13,870 the show oh really 298 00:13:22,260 --> 00:13:19,450 it is batshit crazy that movie something 299 00:13:23,700 --> 00:13:22,270 that it's just gonna like be so insane 300 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:23,710 that it takes your mind off of things 301 00:13:27,570 --> 00:13:25,450 and you're currently social distancing 302 00:13:29,070 --> 00:13:27,580 gone Amazon Prime or just try it if I'm 303 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:29,080 sure there's an easy way to find it find 304 00:13:33,780 --> 00:13:31,450 night of the demons I believe it's 1988 305 00:13:37,710 --> 00:13:33,790 it tries to be tongue-in-cheek and it 306 00:13:39,540 --> 00:13:37,720 just does not work I absolutely love 307 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:39,550 horror movies I love hordes my favorite 308 00:13:46,500 --> 00:13:42,610 genre good bad scary not so scary like 309 00:13:48,390 --> 00:13:46,510 it's sometimes the worst the better for 310 00:13:49,950 --> 00:13:48,400 me like I just was watching child's play 311 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:49,960 three with my morning coffee yesterday 312 00:13:56,100 --> 00:13:53,710 just because and so it's it's something 313 00:13:58,050 --> 00:13:56,110 that I love and I love seeing horror 314 00:13:59,850 --> 00:13:58,060 movies that I've never seen before I 315 00:14:02,280 --> 00:13:59,860 love when something like really really 316 00:14:04,410 --> 00:14:02,290 scares me most recently I watched the 317 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:04,420 autopsy of Jane Doe which I had never 318 00:14:08,490 --> 00:14:07,330 seen and it's it's currently on Netflix 319 00:14:11,850 --> 00:14:08,500 that's one you should definitely check 320 00:14:15,450 --> 00:14:11,860 out even though I what's his name it's 321 00:14:17,220 --> 00:14:15,460 got Brian Cox and a dude who I try not 322 00:14:19,140 --> 00:14:17,230 to support too much she was Speed Racer 323 00:14:22,890 --> 00:14:19,150 we just won't say his name it'll be here 324 00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:22,900 that way yeah you know looking to the 325 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:25,120 dude who played the Speed Racer in the 326 00:14:29,130 --> 00:14:27,130 live-action wachowski movie and looking 327 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:29,140 into some [\h__\h] that he did back in 2015 328 00:14:32,670 --> 00:14:30,730 you'll understand why I don't want to 329 00:14:35,010 --> 00:14:32,680 give him too many props buoyance 330 00:14:38,370 --> 00:14:35,020 yeah wonderful movie really really scary 331 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:38,380 and it's I love when I feel like I'm at 332 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:42,550 a movies mercy where and more often than 333 00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:44,170 not horror movies are the movies that 334 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:46,720 will catch me off guard and will make me 335 00:14:51,330 --> 00:14:48,670 not sure what's gonna happen next and I 336 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:51,340 love that feeling it's like it's the the 337 00:14:56,190 --> 00:14:54,010 purple dragon that I chase to just keep 338 00:14:59,100 --> 00:14:56,200 finding movies where I'm not only scared 339 00:15:00,960 --> 00:14:59,110 so I just unsure of what to expect 340 00:15:03,390 --> 00:15:00,970 well we're gonna we're gonna find out if 341 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:03,400 you're at the mercy of dark skies Jane 342 00:15:09,950 --> 00:15:06,930 so little run down here we've got the 343 00:15:11,820 --> 00:15:09,960 2013 horror sci-fi movie dark skies 344 00:15:13,710 --> 00:15:11,830 directed by Scott Stewart 345 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:13,720 who else are directed written and 346 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:16,090 directed and written I'm sorry I forgot 347 00:15:20,970 --> 00:15:18,370 that yeah that's right he also did 348 00:15:23,370 --> 00:15:20,980 Legion and priests have you seen either 349 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:23,380 of those movies I've seen Legion you 350 00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:25,210 know what I like Legion we did the crazy 351 00:15:33,060 --> 00:15:30,880 Luke got a TV show spin-off to on sci-fi 352 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:33,070 for a while I think it only lasted a 353 00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:36,730 season but I love I I have a soft spot 354 00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:40,360 for a horror adventure movies like 355 00:15:43,650 --> 00:15:41,920 horror things that try to it's like oh 356 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:43,660 it's horror but it's also got this big 357 00:15:48,930 --> 00:15:46,510 like lineage and like Lourdes and stuff 358 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:48,940 like that and Legion checks off a lot of 359 00:15:54,210 --> 00:15:51,370 those boxes it's also a fun bottle movie 360 00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:54,220 yes it all takes place in that diner did 361 00:15:59,850 --> 00:15:56,800 you see what his earlier career stuff 362 00:16:01,680 --> 00:15:59,860 included I mean some television and 363 00:16:02,130 --> 00:16:01,690 special effects but what no what am I 364 00:16:04,380 --> 00:16:02,140 missing 365 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:04,390 well well yeah he was a visual effects 366 00:16:08,070 --> 00:16:06,310 artist okay apparently or a visual 367 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:08,080 effects person and one of his first 368 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:09,610 movies he worked on was Mars Attacks 369 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:13,090 real um he yep he worked on Superman 370 00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:16,570 Returns Sin City and at least according 371 00:16:21,990 --> 00:16:17,710 to his Wikipedia page 372 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:22,000 the last visual effects on Strickland's 373 00:16:26,730 --> 00:16:25,090 visual effects person was the first Iron 374 00:16:29,310 --> 00:16:26,740 Man movie Wow 375 00:16:32,730 --> 00:16:29,320 so he is yes so this dude is is a part 376 00:16:34,350 --> 00:16:32,740 of cinematic history for better or worse 377 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:34,360 I'm sure he was able to just write his 378 00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:35,830 own ticket after that because you see 379 00:16:39,930 --> 00:16:37,630 after Iron Man within the couple years 380 00:16:41,850 --> 00:16:39,940 he gets to just start directing his own 381 00:16:48,660 --> 00:16:41,860 movies yeah you get to make that jump 382 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:48,670 he's the next type of itv for sure this 383 00:16:52,890 --> 00:16:50,890 movie was produced by jason blum blum 384 00:16:54,540 --> 00:16:52,900 house productions and dimension actually 385 00:16:57,590 --> 00:16:54,550 got that yeah you've got the Weinsteins 386 00:17:01,640 --> 00:16:57,600 in there too okay we won't go there 387 00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:01,650 we're gonna create that part of that 388 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:04,720 Keri Russell who was just on runway Josh 389 00:17:10,050 --> 00:17:09,520 Hamilton Dakota Stuart and holy [\h__\h] JK 390 00:17:13,250 --> 00:17:10,060 Simmons 391 00:17:16,740 --> 00:17:13,260 so that's what we got to look forward to 392 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:16,750 but I gotta ask before I want well I was 393 00:17:20,010 --> 00:17:17,650 wondering if you could give us the 394 00:17:22,199 --> 00:17:20,020 official synopsis Andrew but have you 395 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:22,209 ever loved have you seen the movie 396 00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:22,690 before 397 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:24,910 I haven't asked I just watched it this 398 00:17:29,220 --> 00:17:25,329 morning 399 00:17:31,289 --> 00:17:29,230 actually Oh awesome okay yes it is 400 00:17:33,870 --> 00:17:31,299 yep I had not seen it before I think I 401 00:17:35,940 --> 00:17:33,880 had heard of it I remember I feel like I 402 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:35,950 remember when it came out but I just 403 00:17:38,970 --> 00:17:37,450 yeah yeah ever sorry 404 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:38,980 alright well they're good this will be 405 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:41,200 fun then umm so yeah you don't mind can 406 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:43,570 you give us the official IMDB synopsis 407 00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:46,570 for darts sure as the Barrett family's 408 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:48,880 peaceful suburban life is rocked by an 409 00:17:54,149 --> 00:17:51,580 escalating series of disturbing events 410 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:54,159 they come to learn that a terrifying and 411 00:18:00,289 --> 00:17:57,130 deadly force is after them one which may 412 00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:00,299 have arrived from beyond the stars 413 00:18:05,879 --> 00:18:03,600 beautifully done I couldn't thank you 414 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:05,889 I've been doing a lot of cold reading 415 00:18:10,919 --> 00:18:09,250 social distancing as well so it's it's 416 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:10,929 yeah you got to keep that muscle warm 417 00:18:16,590 --> 00:18:15,250 you really do you do well I want to 418 00:18:18,930 --> 00:18:16,600 bring this up before we even get into 419 00:18:20,399 --> 00:18:18,940 sort of our review and kind of we're 420 00:18:23,009 --> 00:18:20,409 gonna do kind of a play-by-play of the 421 00:18:24,779 --> 00:18:23,019 movie if anyone hasn't seen it I if 422 00:18:27,180 --> 00:18:24,789 anyone hasn't I definitely room and 423 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:27,190 recommend stopping this episode now go 424 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:29,200 watch then come back this is gonna be 425 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:32,320 full of spoilers obviously but this is 426 00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:34,330 this is interesting a lot of people get 427 00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:36,190 confused because there was also a 428 00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:38,950 television series in the mid-90s with 429 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:40,960 the same title dark skies and it also 430 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:44,200 was about aliens and I've actually had 431 00:18:47,970 --> 00:18:46,450 the creator and writer of dark skies 432 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:47,980 that television series on the podcast 433 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:49,570 many times that's awesome he's a 434 00:18:54,990 --> 00:18:52,510 colleague a friend and for a while he 435 00:18:56,940 --> 00:18:55,000 protested this movie because he believed 436 00:18:59,639 --> 00:18:56,950 really they intentionally lifted the 437 00:19:03,269 --> 00:18:59,649 title after someone saw the show or was 438 00:19:06,090 --> 00:19:03,279 connected to the show but either way you 439 00:19:08,909 --> 00:19:06,100 know what what's his name if you don't 440 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:08,919 mind me asking the CD show Bryce Bryce 441 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:10,690 table I think Bryce might be onto 442 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:13,090 something because my first question 443 00:19:17,610 --> 00:19:15,490 after finishing the movie is what does 444 00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:17,620 the title have to do with the movie we 445 00:19:23,820 --> 00:19:19,600 saw like it doesn't have a deeper 446 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:23,830 lineage in UFO stories or things like 447 00:19:27,539 --> 00:19:25,630 that that I'm not aware of or is it 448 00:19:29,129 --> 00:19:27,549 strictly just the only other connection 449 00:19:30,750 --> 00:19:29,139 you could make is to a TV show in the 450 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:30,760 90s that was about it you go folks 451 00:19:34,350 --> 00:19:32,320 it has absolutely nothing to do with 452 00:19:37,259 --> 00:19:34,360 anything you have for let's see 453 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:37,269 yeah like then I'm the I think price 454 00:19:41,850 --> 00:19:39,250 might be onto something because not only 455 00:19:43,710 --> 00:19:41,860 do we whenever it's nighttime we 456 00:19:45,269 --> 00:19:43,720 primarily see inside the house there's 457 00:19:47,490 --> 00:19:45,279 like one moment where we see a guy 458 00:19:55,259 --> 00:19:47,500 looking out into a quote-unquote dark 459 00:19:56,970 --> 00:19:55,269 sky but there's so price is pretty 460 00:19:58,500 --> 00:19:56,980 bitter he's probably not happy I'm 461 00:20:03,690 --> 00:19:58,510 reviewing this movie but that's gonna 462 00:20:07,769 --> 00:20:03,700 depend on the review to be completed a I 463 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:07,779 am on Bryce's side meets huh I've never 464 00:20:14,129 --> 00:20:11,730 met the man sounds like a real smart guy 465 00:20:15,870 --> 00:20:14,139 it was a brilliant serious definitely 466 00:20:18,029 --> 00:20:15,880 check it out if he can manage no less 467 00:20:21,330 --> 00:20:18,039 have not wells in but um it's some of 468 00:20:22,919 --> 00:20:21,340 the best historical preserved television 469 00:20:25,409 --> 00:20:22,929 I've seen in a while you know it's it 470 00:20:27,389 --> 00:20:25,419 air in the 90s but it took place in like 471 00:20:29,639 --> 00:20:27,399 the 60s and 70s and it's just beautiful 472 00:20:33,870 --> 00:20:29,649 to look at so yeah check it out if it 473 00:20:37,049 --> 00:20:33,880 can okay alright so we open in the movie 474 00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:37,059 dark skies with an arthur c clarke quote 475 00:20:41,310 --> 00:20:38,559 and this is one of my favorite quotes 476 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:41,320 it's two possibilities exist either we 477 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:42,730 are alone in the universe 478 00:20:48,389 --> 00:20:45,850 or we are not both are equally as 479 00:20:50,490 --> 00:20:48,399 terrifying I love that quote - I think 480 00:20:54,299 --> 00:20:50,500 I've brought that quote up on this 481 00:21:00,930 --> 00:20:54,309 podcast yeah I think you have it's what 482 00:21:04,110 --> 00:21:00,940 I might pick up yes right of course of 483 00:21:06,659 --> 00:21:04,120 course so as soon as I saw that I'm like 484 00:21:08,879 --> 00:21:06,669 okay I'm done with this they they looked 485 00:21:10,139 --> 00:21:08,889 at some good inspirational sci-fi 486 00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:10,149 writers of the time 487 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:12,070 so let's um let's run through our 488 00:21:17,490 --> 00:21:14,110 characters quick we've got Daniel who's 489 00:21:19,019 --> 00:21:17,500 a dad lacy is the mom Jessie is an older 490 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:19,029 brother and Sammy as a younger brother 491 00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:21,250 so we've got right pretty small family 492 00:21:26,820 --> 00:21:24,159 here and write a pretty standard 493 00:21:29,779 --> 00:21:26,830 suburban fare they live in like a nice 494 00:21:32,909 --> 00:21:29,789 quiet little suburb as the breakdown 495 00:21:35,879 --> 00:21:32,919 suggests they've got their nice dynamics 496 00:21:37,950 --> 00:21:35,889 there's as there seems to be some worry 497 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:37,960 in the family of where the next paycheck 498 00:21:42,750 --> 00:21:39,490 is going to come from which was odd 499 00:21:45,810 --> 00:21:42,760 about that yeah we get a pretty standard 500 00:21:47,220 --> 00:21:45,820 family dynamic in this movie typical 501 00:21:49,950 --> 00:21:47,230 white suburban family 502 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:49,960 they're fighters you know the brothers 503 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:52,000 get along really well they have this 504 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:54,850 really strong bond they they talk to one 505 00:21:59,010 --> 00:21:56,890 another at night over walkie talkies and 506 00:22:01,020 --> 00:21:59,020 from their bedrooms which we'll get to 507 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:01,030 this plays a big part in the movie but 508 00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:02,290 then you have sort of this deterioration 509 00:22:05,070 --> 00:22:04,540 of the parents who are kind of falling 510 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:05,080 apart 511 00:22:10,650 --> 00:22:08,290 you know lads unemployed the mom is 512 00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:10,660 carrying the family you just can't find 513 00:22:16,890 --> 00:22:13,750 work he's insecure so you start to see 514 00:22:19,289 --> 00:22:16,900 the family isn't exactly as perfect as 515 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:19,299 we would like to think well yeah and 516 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:23,770 it's it started this is an interesting 517 00:22:28,049 --> 00:22:25,690 way to start this movie with just this 518 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:28,059 very like a little bit more contained 519 00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:31,090 and family drama where it's just like oh 520 00:22:34,169 --> 00:22:32,799 you know it's suburban family but not 521 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:34,179 everything is as good as they'd like it 522 00:22:39,659 --> 00:22:36,880 to appear and the the son isn't 523 00:22:42,330 --> 00:22:39,669 listening to them or the older son Jesse 524 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:42,340 isn't listening to them very much 525 00:22:46,169 --> 00:22:44,290 it seems like he has a hard time fitting 526 00:22:47,810 --> 00:22:46,179 in but yeah there's this dynamic between 527 00:22:50,610 --> 00:22:47,820 the parents where they're freaked out 528 00:22:53,070 --> 00:22:50,620 because the dads unemployed I think 529 00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:53,080 there's one point where the the mom is 530 00:22:56,820 --> 00:22:55,030 trying Keri Russell's trying to work on 531 00:22:58,409 --> 00:22:56,830 something and the dads like come on put 532 00:23:01,049 --> 00:22:58,419 it away she's like no we need this 533 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:01,059 because she's a real estate agent so 534 00:23:05,370 --> 00:23:02,890 it's like it shows like it's quick to 535 00:23:07,789 --> 00:23:05,380 establish that everything is not happy 536 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:07,799 at home already 537 00:23:14,010 --> 00:23:11,290 exactly exactly and then on top of this 538 00:23:17,070 --> 00:23:14,020 we start to get these weird things 539 00:23:18,990 --> 00:23:17,080 happening in the home and it kind of 540 00:23:21,659 --> 00:23:19,000 starts with what they think was like 541 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:21,669 someone burglarized her house while they 542 00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:24,130 were home you know they wake up and the 543 00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:26,169 refrigerators open everything's all over 544 00:23:35,610 --> 00:23:32,880 the place so no and a lot of eatin 545 00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:35,620 eating watermelons and apparently the 546 00:23:39,810 --> 00:23:37,120 aunt or they they think it's an animal 547 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:39,820 but she's like what kind of animal comes 548 00:23:45,659 --> 00:23:42,850 in just to eat the lettuce and doesn't 549 00:23:49,370 --> 00:23:45,669 eat the meat so my question right off 550 00:23:52,980 --> 00:23:49,380 the bat Ryan is there some kind of UFO 551 00:23:54,930 --> 00:23:52,990 story to attach to this where aliens are 552 00:23:59,220 --> 00:23:54,940 vegetarians because it seems like they 553 00:24:05,580 --> 00:24:02,580 romaine lettuce or whatever you know I 554 00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:05,590 mean in all of my research I have never 555 00:24:09,810 --> 00:24:07,590 come across definitive proof that their 556 00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:09,820 vegetarian but interesting look at this 557 00:24:14,460 --> 00:24:12,070 look at it this way I mean if a lot of 558 00:24:18,210 --> 00:24:14,470 people believe that these gray aliens 559 00:24:21,389 --> 00:24:18,220 are actually us from the future they are 560 00:24:24,299 --> 00:24:21,399 a writer evolved or devolved version of 561 00:24:25,980 --> 00:24:24,309 us coming back to look at like Oh how 562 00:24:28,019 --> 00:24:25,990 were we at this point in time where did 563 00:24:31,490 --> 00:24:28,029 we go wrong or where do we go right um 564 00:24:33,509 --> 00:24:31,500 so maybe maybe these aliens are so 565 00:24:35,940 --> 00:24:33,519 evolved and enlightened that they 566 00:24:42,539 --> 00:24:35,950 realize they no longer have to eat meat 567 00:24:45,779 --> 00:24:42,549 you know no there's no lore in terms of 568 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:45,789 that there were there were such strong 569 00:24:51,509 --> 00:24:49,450 decisions made in this movie quite a few 570 00:24:54,629 --> 00:24:51,519 of them that I feel like didn't pay off 571 00:24:56,250 --> 00:24:54,639 wholly and trying to fill out what these 572 00:24:57,870 --> 00:24:56,260 aliens were like like that was one of 573 00:25:00,120 --> 00:24:57,880 them I was like why bring up the fact 574 00:25:02,399 --> 00:25:00,130 that they don't eat meat like yeah oh 575 00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:02,409 yeah like it seemed like just such an 576 00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:05,769 odd specific to not have like pay off 577 00:25:09,690 --> 00:25:07,600 later on you know what I mean right 578 00:25:11,159 --> 00:25:09,700 there were a few moments in this film 579 00:25:13,409 --> 00:25:11,169 where that definitely happened right why 580 00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:13,419 like why was that even in there but um 581 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:16,320 right yeah yeah to me it seems like 582 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:19,690 Stuart the writer he kind of looked at 583 00:25:26,370 --> 00:25:24,730 the surface level you know phenomenon 584 00:25:28,980 --> 00:25:26,380 when it comes to aliens and UFO 585 00:25:31,889 --> 00:25:28,990 encounters or alien abductions and just 586 00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:31,899 right who lifted some first sentences 587 00:25:39,529 --> 00:25:36,220 and like families experience that's what 588 00:25:43,169 --> 00:25:39,539 I'm yes yeah no I 589 00:25:46,830 --> 00:25:43,179 and there's elements this snag is 590 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:46,840 because you have some of those elements 591 00:25:50,430 --> 00:25:48,730 that are very surface level and then 592 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:50,440 some of the family drama that comes 593 00:25:54,419 --> 00:25:52,510 across very surface level as well at 594 00:25:55,649 --> 00:25:54,429 least in the sense that like I thought 595 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:55,659 it was kind of interesting where they're 596 00:26:00,000 --> 00:25:57,850 literally like we can't pay for our 597 00:26:01,710 --> 00:26:00,010 security system even though this is 598 00:26:01,889 --> 00:26:01,720 happening right now which don't get me 599 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:01,899 wrong 600 00:26:07,379 --> 00:26:03,760 still kind of a champagne problem kind 601 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:07,389 of a thing but it was interesting to me 602 00:26:11,460 --> 00:26:09,370 where I was like wow this is you know 603 00:26:13,049 --> 00:26:11,470 they're struggling and they can't do 604 00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:13,059 something that would take care of 605 00:26:16,169 --> 00:26:14,529 in this moment they have to sacrifice 606 00:26:17,789 --> 00:26:16,179 something else to make that happen you 607 00:26:21,709 --> 00:26:17,799 know he goes to a job interview that 608 00:26:25,619 --> 00:26:21,719 doesn't work out well but they still 609 00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:25,629 don't seem as stressed out by that yeah 610 00:26:29,939 --> 00:26:27,429 it's like the movie the movie is 611 00:26:32,609 --> 00:26:29,949 constantly juggling being two different 612 00:26:34,139 --> 00:26:32,619 things where it's like oh it seems like 613 00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:34,149 they're stressed out by money but really 614 00:26:37,199 --> 00:26:35,679 they're stressed out by aliens really 615 00:26:38,819 --> 00:26:37,209 they're stressed out by money really 616 00:26:40,439 --> 00:26:38,829 they're stressed out by alien like it 617 00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:40,449 just keeps kind of bouncing back and 618 00:26:45,509 --> 00:26:42,849 forth I never felt like it confidently 619 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:45,519 comfortably got its footing in either 620 00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:49,049 side for me personally it seems like to 621 00:26:56,189 --> 00:26:52,799 almost cliche stories being mixed in yes 622 00:26:57,539 --> 00:26:56,199 in while I enjoy the performances I 623 00:27:01,369 --> 00:26:57,549 think the actors did a really good job 624 00:27:05,099 --> 00:27:01,379 it does it comes across a little a 625 00:27:07,439 --> 00:27:05,109 little less than genuine to me um but 626 00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:07,449 yeah be said once we get to sort of the 627 00:27:14,009 --> 00:27:10,569 the paranormal aspects of this this is 628 00:27:15,749 --> 00:27:14,019 like straight-up poltergeist and I don't 629 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:15,759 necessarily think that's a bad thing you 630 00:27:19,049 --> 00:27:18,129 know other things is known for doing 631 00:27:21,059 --> 00:27:19,059 things like that 632 00:27:23,339 --> 00:27:21,069 and one of the first ones besides the 633 00:27:25,739 --> 00:27:23,349 you know the breaking in at the home you 634 00:27:28,409 --> 00:27:25,749 mentioned the alarm system this one this 635 00:27:31,529 --> 00:27:28,419 was interesting so their alarm system 636 00:27:34,979 --> 00:27:31,539 goes off they call the place up and the 637 00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:34,989 woman says it looks like it was tripped 638 00:27:40,019 --> 00:27:37,809 somehow but it's all eight of arms in 639 00:27:42,629 --> 00:27:40,029 all eight rights of entry in your home 640 00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:42,639 so that that gave me chills when I first 641 00:27:49,259 --> 00:27:46,089 heard that yeah that was pretty cool and 642 00:27:52,889 --> 00:27:49,269 it's like it was a good example of like 643 00:27:55,619 --> 00:27:52,899 we don't know what is doing this or how 644 00:27:58,589 --> 00:27:55,629 it's doing it and and the idea that you 645 00:27:59,999 --> 00:27:58,599 keep having the police officer being 646 00:28:01,439 --> 00:28:00,009 like you're sure it's not your kids are 647 00:28:02,879 --> 00:28:01,449 you sure it's not your kids are you sure 648 00:28:05,399 --> 00:28:02,889 it's not your kids right and I was just 649 00:28:08,189 --> 00:28:05,409 like you could not have a more 650 00:28:10,499 --> 00:28:08,199 dismissive police officer oh just there 651 00:28:12,239 --> 00:28:10,509 to be dismissive and then leave makes 652 00:28:17,549 --> 00:28:12,249 his partner wait outside which I thought 653 00:28:20,339 --> 00:28:17,559 was something's going on yeah 654 00:28:22,139 --> 00:28:20,349 something's going on like and it's there 655 00:28:24,269 --> 00:28:22,149 were a lot of elements kind of thrown in 656 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:24,279 in the first act that I was like hah 657 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:26,049 this could pay it maybe pay off later 658 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:26,809 and then 659 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:30,129 some that were thrown in that were 660 00:28:35,619 --> 00:28:33,289 specifically set up to pay off later in 661 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:35,629 a way that you would have not expected 662 00:28:40,690 --> 00:28:37,850 hircine coven we don't have to get into 663 00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:40,700 that right at this moment yeah but when 664 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:42,440 you have stuff at the beginning with the 665 00:28:49,570 --> 00:28:47,470 Sun Jesse and his awful terrible 666 00:28:52,989 --> 00:28:49,580 stereotypical I'm gonna use the word 667 00:28:56,619 --> 00:28:52,999 wigger even though I hate that term kid 668 00:29:00,009 --> 00:28:56,629 like gangsta friend who's just they call 669 00:29:01,810 --> 00:29:00,019 him rats the dad calls him rat face like 670 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:01,820 it's just this like shitty friend that 671 00:29:10,299 --> 00:29:07,490 he has that he is unquestionably and for 672 00:29:12,639 --> 00:29:10,309 some reason just straight loyalty right 673 00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:12,649 right and you know they sort of go into 674 00:29:17,529 --> 00:29:14,929 it saying you know the son Jesse he's a 675 00:29:19,539 --> 00:29:17,539 little younger so he's kind of like he's 676 00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:19,549 he's in that age where he's starting to 677 00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:21,710 mature he's got a crush on a girl and he 678 00:29:27,159 --> 00:29:24,559 he's you know there's one point when him 679 00:29:28,210 --> 00:29:27,169 in the friend I don't even have his 680 00:29:30,940 --> 00:29:28,220 friend's name written down 681 00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:30,950 you said rat well comrade yeah it's like 682 00:29:37,419 --> 00:29:33,320 something rats rats nerds his last Nancy 683 00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:37,429 and some yeah they call him rats yeah so 684 00:29:41,499 --> 00:29:39,440 there's one point where they're they're 685 00:29:45,730 --> 00:29:41,509 watching a porn together and this is 686 00:29:48,369 --> 00:29:45,740 like you know the the kid Jesse he's 687 00:29:51,070 --> 00:29:48,379 he's trying to see how to become you 688 00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:51,080 know the next level of a teenager I 689 00:29:56,379 --> 00:29:54,080 think and right this person he's chosen 690 00:29:58,060 --> 00:29:56,389 to sort of emulate is the last person he 691 00:30:01,570 --> 00:29:58,070 should ever be emulating he's a complete 692 00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:01,580 sociopath yes this is funny so this 693 00:30:05,649 --> 00:30:04,159 second sort of or maybe third I don't 694 00:30:08,109 --> 00:30:05,659 know at this point there's so many um 695 00:30:10,810 --> 00:30:08,119 sort of paranormal Eska moments in the 696 00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:10,820 film is Keri Russell the wife is at home 697 00:30:17,710 --> 00:30:15,200 and she she's looking out the window and 698 00:30:19,810 --> 00:30:17,720 then a bird crashes into the window and 699 00:30:21,940 --> 00:30:19,820 then it is and then another and then 700 00:30:25,299 --> 00:30:21,950 another and literally hundreds and 701 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:25,309 hundreds of birds start just basically 702 00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:28,610 dive bombing into their home all dying 703 00:30:33,220 --> 00:30:31,129 and just it's complete pandemonium it's 704 00:30:37,090 --> 00:30:33,230 very unsettling what did you think of 705 00:30:41,060 --> 00:30:37,100 that scene - it was again it was 706 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:41,070 something that felt familiar 707 00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:42,930 you know what I mean like and again it 708 00:30:48,620 --> 00:30:46,020 is it is kind of that successful version 709 00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:48,630 of like a No Mas type another thing it's 710 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:50,520 like it's almost becomes clear then like 711 00:30:55,310 --> 00:30:53,850 oh this is an otherworldly situation 712 00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:55,320 even if it's not aliens even it's 713 00:31:01,220 --> 00:30:56,940 something supernatural what have you 714 00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:01,230 there's something going on that's being 715 00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:03,720 implied when a bunch of birds start 716 00:31:09,380 --> 00:31:06,510 flying at one direction like they trying 717 00:31:11,510 --> 00:31:09,390 to get through it almost and again I 718 00:31:15,950 --> 00:31:11,520 thought like Kari rustles the goat man 719 00:31:18,650 --> 00:31:15,960 so she's like she plays it off very well 720 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:18,660 and reacts in a way that makes you feel 721 00:31:24,980 --> 00:31:23,130 scared for her and I I found the I again 722 00:31:27,290 --> 00:31:24,990 that moment I found as well to be very 723 00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:27,300 effective in what it was trying to do 724 00:31:38,030 --> 00:31:30,030 which was to show that like something 725 00:31:39,890 --> 00:31:38,040 weird is going on here what that is to 726 00:31:43,310 --> 00:31:39,900 kind of throw these people into 727 00:31:45,020 --> 00:31:43,320 hysterics I liked the randomness of what 728 00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:45,030 was going on the fact that they couldn't 729 00:31:49,220 --> 00:31:47,040 really nail it down to one specific 730 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:49,230 incident because I believe the next 731 00:31:52,730 --> 00:31:50,970 thing that happens is the dad takes the 732 00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:52,740 kids to the park or takes Sammy to the 733 00:32:00,200 --> 00:31:56,460 park the youngest one and this this is 734 00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,210 something I understand maybe they made 735 00:32:05,150 --> 00:32:02,880 certain choices maybe they're the actors 736 00:32:06,890 --> 00:32:05,160 trying to convey something that they 737 00:32:09,140 --> 00:32:06,900 couldn't get across cuz Josh Hamilton is 738 00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:09,150 another guy the dad he's a Broadway 739 00:32:14,510 --> 00:32:12,630 actor he's he's done a lot of he's done 740 00:32:16,790 --> 00:32:14,520 a lot of movies he saw a lot of TV dude 741 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:16,800 knows what he's doing but there's a 742 00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:20,130 moment where Sammy starts screaming like 743 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:22,230 he looks off opens his mouth and starts 744 00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:24,090 screaming and can't stop screaming and 745 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:25,440 this is I think one of the next 746 00:32:28,490 --> 00:32:26,910 paranormal it either happens right 747 00:32:31,370 --> 00:32:28,500 before the birds or it happens after the 748 00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:31,380 birds he starts screaming and the dad is 749 00:32:36,170 --> 00:32:34,350 just yelling at him to stop in a way 750 00:32:38,150 --> 00:32:36,180 that seems like he's almost met he's 751 00:32:49,370 --> 00:32:38,160 like Sammy stop stop 752 00:32:51,770 --> 00:32:49,380 Sammy stop and started screamin and 753 00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:51,780 maybe they could have we see later on 754 00:32:56,690 --> 00:32:53,820 that it 755 00:32:59,060 --> 00:32:56,700 hinted that the dead may or may not be 756 00:33:01,659 --> 00:32:59,070 abusive or like at least that's what 757 00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:01,669 people like it's almost seems like the 758 00:33:05,899 --> 00:33:03,929 things do English you're trying to make 759 00:33:07,729 --> 00:33:05,909 people believe that he's abusive for 760 00:33:10,460 --> 00:33:07,739 some reason or at least that's the 761 00:33:12,139 --> 00:33:10,470 misconception that happened so it could 762 00:33:14,869 --> 00:33:12,149 be landing with seat planting the seeds 763 00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:14,879 for that but I really doubt it on it 764 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:16,590 just it to me it just struck me as a 765 00:33:25,310 --> 00:33:20,850 very odd choice one thing I'd also love 766 00:33:27,499 --> 00:33:25,320 is manured to make movies in general 767 00:33:29,479 --> 00:33:27,509 making a movie is very hard and getting 768 00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:29,489 it to come out good is even harder but 769 00:33:32,869 --> 00:33:30,720 there are little things that are just 770 00:33:36,379 --> 00:33:32,879 speed bumps along the way and one of 771 00:33:40,820 --> 00:33:36,389 them for me at least was her Search 772 00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:40,830 Search when she goes to search what's 773 00:33:44,779 --> 00:33:42,840 going on to her and it it looks like a 774 00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:44,789 Google page but instead of Google it 775 00:33:49,339 --> 00:33:47,460 says search you know big letters and I 776 00:33:58,369 --> 00:33:49,349 was like oh boy guys you didn't need to 777 00:34:01,519 --> 00:33:58,379 show us that page I get it boy you don't 778 00:34:03,469 --> 00:34:01,529 have to ya ain't gotta show me that 779 00:34:04,639 --> 00:34:03,479 she's like just and she's clicking on 780 00:34:07,849 --> 00:34:04,649 the computer next thing you know she's 781 00:34:10,339 --> 00:34:07,859 not a page that yeah 782 00:34:12,799 --> 00:34:10,349 very strange I mean a lot of horror 783 00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:12,809 movies do this where they oh yeah they 784 00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:16,409 they do a search for you know the most 785 00:34:23,470 --> 00:34:19,760 random [\h__\h] out there oh yeah my son is 786 00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:23,480 talking in a voice of a 45 year old man 787 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:25,889 and then the immediate response is 788 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:30,210 always possessed you know and it's 789 00:34:37,490 --> 00:34:33,210 talked to because I feel like you know 790 00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:37,500 back in the day 70's and 80's and 90's 791 00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:40,889 made 60 like it hasn't been until this 792 00:34:49,369 --> 00:34:45,119 like last decade like in the mid 2000 to 793 00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:49,379 2007 2008 you can't really send a 794 00:34:54,319 --> 00:34:51,960 character to the library anymore yeah 795 00:34:56,450 --> 00:34:54,329 you know what I mean you can't send them 796 00:34:59,210 --> 00:34:56,460 to another location to look something up 797 00:35:02,319 --> 00:34:59,220 it would a it would probably be costly 798 00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:02,329 be it's a little unrealistic because 799 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:05,640 like libraries aren't as important as 800 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:07,530 they used to be anymore 801 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:11,370 but see it's really just if nobody would 802 00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:14,610 do that like so it's but unfortunately 803 00:35:20,090 --> 00:35:17,520 alternative is at least to me not as 804 00:35:21,530 --> 00:35:20,100 interesting like especially because we 805 00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:21,540 live in a world where anybody can put 806 00:35:23,150 --> 00:35:22,710 whatever the hell they want on the 807 00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:23,160 Internet 808 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:24,900 I'm not saying libraries are like the 809 00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:28,170 end-all be-all source of information but 810 00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:29,700 when you have a character that's just 811 00:35:34,190 --> 00:35:31,260 clickety clack clack clack and on a 812 00:35:37,490 --> 00:35:34,200 keyboard it's it's hard for it to come 813 00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:37,500 across as scary to me well let's get to 814 00:35:44,180 --> 00:35:41,400 sort of beyond these little teasing 815 00:35:47,210 --> 00:35:44,190 things that whatever Lane behind this is 816 00:35:50,180 --> 00:35:47,220 doing there's another interesting one 817 00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:50,190 where all the photos in the frames in 818 00:35:54,260 --> 00:35:52,680 the house just disappeared that was you 819 00:35:57,350 --> 00:35:54,270 know interesting I'd never really seen 820 00:36:01,970 --> 00:35:57,360 anything like that done before yes and I 821 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:01,980 also feel like possibly it is playing 822 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:04,410 into the big twist at the end of the 823 00:36:13,610 --> 00:36:09,570 movie okay clear we'll get into later 824 00:36:15,020 --> 00:36:13,620 but that was something there's there's 825 00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:15,030 always fun to be had when you have a 826 00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:17,640 twist at the movie in a movie at the 827 00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:19,230 towards the end and then you look back 828 00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:20,910 and think about the movie afterwards go 829 00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:23,190 like oh man this happened that kind of 830 00:36:26,570 --> 00:36:24,540 relates to that this happened this 831 00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:26,580 happened sometimes that can be done 832 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:28,800 really strongly I do not feel it was 833 00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:30,930 done as strongly in this and I do 834 00:36:35,390 --> 00:36:33,630 believe that that was to set up the 835 00:36:36,890 --> 00:36:35,400 twist to feel at the end I could be 836 00:36:39,650 --> 00:36:36,900 wrong it could have just been like oh 837 00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:39,660 here's another random weird thing that 838 00:36:46,820 --> 00:36:44,670 happened but I do think part of it was 839 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:46,830 that to set up the twist again if 840 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:49,170 anything the twist made it less 841 00:36:53,090 --> 00:36:51,570 effective because in the moment I was 842 00:36:55,070 --> 00:36:53,100 like oh weird they just took all their 843 00:36:57,170 --> 00:36:55,080 pictures like that's creepy 844 00:36:58,970 --> 00:36:57,180 like it's it's a weird thing and it's a 845 00:37:00,680 --> 00:36:58,980 weird way to mess with people that was 846 00:37:05,150 --> 00:37:00,690 another effective moment I also thought 847 00:37:06,530 --> 00:37:05,160 that we see Keri Russell well a one of 848 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:06,540 the time she's trying to sell the house 849 00:37:10,460 --> 00:37:08,610 she talks to this mother and the mother 850 00:37:12,650 --> 00:37:10,470 says that her kid gets sick a lot the 851 00:37:15,350 --> 00:37:12,660 kid almost has an asthma attack and one 852 00:37:17,090 --> 00:37:15,360 of the weirdest ADR moments that I've 853 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:17,100 seen in the movie that girl was not me 854 00:37:19,850 --> 00:37:18,210 that girl was not making that noise 855 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:19,860 there clearly like we'll just throw it 856 00:37:24,430 --> 00:37:20,970 in post 857 00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:24,440 I didn't post put it up post but she 858 00:37:29,330 --> 00:37:27,630 tells the mother like oh you know Joe we 859 00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:29,340 find out that Jesse was sick a lot when 860 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:31,710 he was little constantly like he was 861 00:37:37,700 --> 00:37:36,330 allergic to the world she says and the 862 00:37:39,710 --> 00:37:37,710 mother is like oh how'd you get through 863 00:37:42,380 --> 00:37:39,720 it the Keri Russell basically convinces 864 00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:42,390 this woman not to buy the house because 865 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:44,040 it won't be good for her so it's a nice 866 00:37:46,970 --> 00:37:45,690 little like moment to show us that like 867 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:46,980 Keri Russell gives a [\h__\h] about people 868 00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:49,410 later on she's showing the same house to 869 00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:51,390 somebody and we start to get into some 870 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:53,369 of the even creepier moments and I like 871 00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:57,119 this a lot because she like she just all 872 00:38:01,070 --> 00:37:58,770 of a sudden starts twitching and losing 873 00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:01,080 it and then she walks towards this glass 874 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:02,609 door in the back of the house and starts 875 00:38:09,830 --> 00:38:04,320 banging her head against it until it 876 00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:09,840 breaks hey y'all Ryan Sprague here as 877 00:38:14,330 --> 00:38:11,310 you all know this somewhere in the sky's 878 00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:14,340 podcast is always free to consume but it 879 00:38:18,290 --> 00:38:16,920 isn't free to create that's why I've 880 00:38:21,020 --> 00:38:18,300 started this somewhere in the skies 881 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:21,030 patreon campaign you on a monthly basis 882 00:38:24,740 --> 00:38:23,010 you give what you think the show is 883 00:38:27,470 --> 00:38:24,750 worth you'll be helping the show 884 00:38:30,170 --> 00:38:27,480 continue grow and to be something truly 885 00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:30,180 communal and remember there are rewards 886 00:38:35,450 --> 00:38:32,760 for each level of contribution and the 887 00:38:37,820 --> 00:38:35,460 list is only grown so please help 888 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:37,830 somewhere in the skies now by becoming a 889 00:39:15,890 --> 00:38:40,170 patron to contribute and to learn more 890 00:39:20,540 --> 00:39:18,530 now who dost for that no matter what 891 00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:20,550 people end up thinking of the movie 892 00:39:24,859 --> 00:39:23,310 there were some really effective moments 893 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:24,869 I think and that was definitely one of 894 00:39:30,650 --> 00:39:27,650 them yeah and I appreciated that she 895 00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:30,660 does that and then wakes up in her bed 896 00:39:34,730 --> 00:39:33,270 thinking it's dream and then call for 897 00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:34,740 her boss that's just like white 898 00:39:38,030 --> 00:39:36,510 you start having a nervous breakdown in 899 00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:38,040 that building in that the house that 900 00:39:40,910 --> 00:39:39,420 you're showing this morning right and 901 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:40,920 she sees that it's like 3:00 in the 902 00:39:45,380 --> 00:39:43,290 afternoon so it actually happened but 903 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:45,390 she woke up like it was a dream like it 904 00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:47,850 was it was just a fun like it was a 905 00:39:53,150 --> 00:39:50,400 great way to show how much they're 906 00:39:54,620 --> 00:39:53,160 losing control and what's happening in 907 00:39:56,780 --> 00:39:54,630 my opinion that was one of the most 908 00:39:58,850 --> 00:39:56,790 effective moments in the movie yeah and 909 00:40:02,240 --> 00:39:58,860 it sort of spirals from there each 910 00:40:03,590 --> 00:40:02,250 member of the family starts to sort of 911 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:03,600 have these moments where they seem 912 00:40:08,930 --> 00:40:06,210 controlled by something and in onions 913 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:08,940 you know the dad she Carey Rosso goes 914 00:40:14,180 --> 00:40:11,760 outside and finds him frozen in place 915 00:40:16,070 --> 00:40:14,190 outside and when she you know it's one 916 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:16,080 of these these typical horror moments 917 00:40:20,810 --> 00:40:18,930 where you can't see the person you they 918 00:40:24,650 --> 00:40:20,820 have their back to you and then when she 919 00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:24,660 goes around his mouth is just wide gape 920 00:40:30,290 --> 00:40:27,960 and he's fro yeah and then yeah his nose 921 00:40:33,050 --> 00:40:30,300 just starts pouring blood out and then 922 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:33,060 he just runs back inside like really 923 00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:34,890 quickly as if controlled by something 924 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:37,710 again these these moments were some of 925 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:39,690 the best in the movie I think where yeah 926 00:40:43,730 --> 00:40:41,490 the director was like I know what I'm 927 00:40:46,130 --> 00:40:43,740 doing here I definitely know how to do 928 00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:46,140 horror now how is it going to connect 929 00:40:51,050 --> 00:40:47,790 alien so that's a question we'll get to 930 00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:51,060 but um yeah that was one and then each 931 00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:52,800 of the sons had those moments to you 932 00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:54,420 know the youngest son he's his pants 933 00:40:58,910 --> 00:40:55,710 starts screaming 934 00:41:02,540 --> 00:40:58,920 jesse is just got his first kiss you 935 00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:02,550 know and then yeah sorry aqua and again 936 00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:03,720 this might be you know like leading 937 00:41:08,420 --> 00:41:05,880 towards the twist but because of the 938 00:41:10,099 --> 00:41:08,430 poor and he was watching he just reaches 939 00:41:12,650 --> 00:41:10,109 out and touches this girl's who calls 940 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:12,660 his girl bad girl and touches her boob 941 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:16,170 and she's like furious understandably so 942 00:41:19,849 --> 00:41:17,609 and then it's like God have you ever 943 00:41:22,010 --> 00:41:19,859 even kissed a girl like just mad and 944 00:41:33,260 --> 00:41:22,020 he's like makes it clear that he hasn't 945 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:33,270 she's like oh well in that case but he 946 00:41:37,790 --> 00:41:35,130 gets like chased when he's right because 947 00:41:39,710 --> 00:41:37,800 again that's what I love like I I was I 948 00:41:41,810 --> 00:41:39,720 wasn't like a sheltered kid but I was 949 00:41:43,820 --> 00:41:41,820 definitely like somebody that I didn't 950 00:41:48,410 --> 00:41:43,830 smoke pot or anything like that until I 951 00:41:51,980 --> 00:41:48,420 left to go to quote-on-quote College 952 00:41:54,019 --> 00:41:51,990 but I like to see a kid that's like 13 953 00:41:56,839 --> 00:41:54,029 years old that this kid's friend pull 954 00:42:03,470 --> 00:41:56,849 out like a bong and a huge bag of weed 955 00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:03,480 and just be like yeah let's rock back 956 00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:05,369 and you know since we're talking about 957 00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:08,640 the friend during this scene where the 958 00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:10,529 birds all crush into the house you know 959 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:13,920 like the the the people show up who deal 960 00:42:23,690 --> 00:42:23,130 with like outbreaks and that's a good 961 00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:23,700 question 962 00:42:32,839 --> 00:42:25,260 we'll have to look that yeah what we'll 963 00:42:39,769 --> 00:42:32,849 fix it in post the EPA or the bad guys 964 00:42:41,299 --> 00:42:39,779 yeah okay so we after the bird thing 965 00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:41,309 happens we find out it was three 966 00:42:45,859 --> 00:42:43,200 different migrations of birds that 967 00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:45,869 crashed into the home and yeah they 968 00:42:51,170 --> 00:42:47,849 think maybe this could be some sort of 969 00:42:56,089 --> 00:42:51,180 weird airborne virus not to get too 970 00:42:59,569 --> 00:42:56,099 current the friend has a line right here 971 00:43:01,779 --> 00:42:59,579 and I gotta read it that is so timely he 972 00:43:06,829 --> 00:43:01,789 says [\h__\h] you're gonna get quarantined 973 00:43:08,269 --> 00:43:06,839 I think the first of five times he says 974 00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:08,279 [\h__\h] throughout this movie that was 975 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:17,259 characters that felt like they were like 976 00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:21,450 somewhat fully defined like and really 977 00:43:25,130 --> 00:43:23,609 like at least moderately fleshed out the 978 00:43:26,930 --> 00:43:25,140 parents felt very flushed out to me 979 00:43:28,910 --> 00:43:26,940 jesse was what he was but again that 980 00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:28,920 might have been intentional Sammy was 981 00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:31,380 your classic little kid that kid I was 982 00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:35,910 just like man I always say to my friend 983 00:43:43,279 --> 00:43:39,599 to Mikhail my friend and co-host on my 984 00:43:46,609 --> 00:43:43,289 show Hollywood has no shortage of shitty 985 00:43:47,630 --> 00:43:46,619 10 to 13 year old kids that have red 986 00:43:49,849 --> 00:43:47,640 hair and freckles 987 00:43:52,190 --> 00:43:49,859 this kid is no different I don't know 988 00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:52,200 what it is it's like they got a factory 989 00:43:56,930 --> 00:43:54,569 that just spits them out yeah but look 990 00:43:59,720 --> 00:43:56,940 over the last like 30 years and you will 991 00:44:02,360 --> 00:43:59,730 just find kids that are from even I 992 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:02,370 would say 8 to 13 red head 993 00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:04,050 freckles and they are always the worst 994 00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:07,200 you should always make these kids shitty 995 00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:09,390 and this one was it wasn't even in like 996 00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:11,700 a fun way I think you said the best he's 997 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:13,380 a sociopath yeah 998 00:44:18,410 --> 00:44:15,450 he's horrible he's absolutely horrible 999 00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:18,420 like if the aliens if if this movie is 1000 00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:21,060 about aliens which we'll get to wanted 1001 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:22,710 to take someone that's the person you 1002 00:44:35,150 --> 00:44:30,050 because then we see him shooting poor 1003 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:35,160 Jesse with an aerosol got funny yeah and 1004 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:39,690 then Jesse starts floating because I 1005 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:43,170 because whatever at this point that the 1006 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:44,970 movie really started to go off the rails 1007 00:44:49,610 --> 00:44:47,090 for me because this happens 1008 00:44:51,050 --> 00:44:49,620 moments later Jesse defect he's like 1009 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:51,060 what he's my friend my best friend 1010 00:44:57,170 --> 00:44:53,130 because then the dad goes over and tries 1011 00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,180 to beat up on rancid like the kid yeah I 1012 00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:00,000 was like okay that seems like a jump 1013 00:45:03,710 --> 00:45:02,310 table and then rightfully so gets 1014 00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:03,720 punched in the face by the dad and 1015 00:45:09,140 --> 00:45:06,840 that's all that comes of it and then if 1016 00:45:12,170 --> 00:45:09,150 I remember correctly order wise moments 1017 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:12,180 later the Dead has a successful job 1018 00:45:17,210 --> 00:45:14,490 interview and gets a new job so all the 1019 00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:17,220 sudden all the family problems are 1020 00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:18,480 thrown out the window 1021 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:21,630 yep yeah like just gone yeah that's a 1022 00:45:25,070 --> 00:45:23,130 good point I actually have that written 1023 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:25,080 down there's a moment where he gets a 1024 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:28,890 job and he's so happy he goes home and 1025 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:31,770 then we get like the most tame sexy 1026 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:35,250 never in cinema history but but it's all 1027 00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:39,890 I you know because I watch the version 1028 00:45:45,380 --> 00:45:43,200 and it's the sci-fi the version that 1029 00:45:48,050 --> 00:45:45,390 they show on TV I saw no sex scene at 1030 00:45:50,210 --> 00:45:48,060 least from my recollect what I'm saying 1031 00:45:59,870 --> 00:45:50,220 I'm talking like they kiss and then you 1032 00:46:03,620 --> 00:45:59,880 hear a little like sort of oh all this 1033 00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:03,630 like crazy scary weird [\h__\h] has happened 1034 00:46:09,350 --> 00:46:06,510 and then it's all just forgotten for one 1035 00:46:11,630 --> 00:46:09,360 night oh yeah yay things are okay in our 1036 00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:11,640 regular lives but now we got to deal 1037 00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:14,160 with this [\h__\h] which it seemed like an 1038 00:46:20,269 --> 00:46:16,079 odd choice like in if you're 1039 00:46:21,979 --> 00:46:20,279 trying to reach a sense of calamity that 1040 00:46:25,009 --> 00:46:21,989 they're shooting for at the end of the 1041 00:46:29,150 --> 00:46:25,019 movie you you I feel like you don't 1042 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:29,160 dismiss the real problems so easily and 1043 00:46:33,709 --> 00:46:31,410 so readily they're just like alright we 1044 00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:33,719 got all that human stuff out of the way 1045 00:46:38,359 --> 00:46:35,609 now let's get into the alien invasion 1046 00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:38,369 and it's just like oh but but whatever 1047 00:46:42,140 --> 00:46:40,319 why so what was that stuff for wouldn't 1048 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:42,150 we go through all that for exactly yeah 1049 00:46:47,479 --> 00:46:43,890 well we'll get to that but I do want to 1050 00:46:50,509 --> 00:46:47,489 mention to Daniel the dad he is you know 1051 00:46:52,940 --> 00:46:50,519 he's really trying to not believe that 1052 00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:52,950 any of this stuff is paranormal or weird 1053 00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:56,190 or he's blamed and he even ends up 1054 00:47:00,109 --> 00:46:58,079 getting security cameras installed I 1055 00:47:03,049 --> 00:47:00,119 don't know how that happens if you know 1056 00:47:06,229 --> 00:47:03,059 they have no money um he gets use 1057 00:47:08,959 --> 00:47:06,239 installed to look in every room and this 1058 00:47:11,509 --> 00:47:08,969 is where one of the first kind of big I 1059 00:47:13,819 --> 00:47:11,519 guess alien abduction tropes comes in 1060 00:47:15,949 --> 00:47:13,829 he's looking at these videos and they 1061 00:47:18,529 --> 00:47:15,959 all go static for a moment and there's a 1062 00:47:20,779 --> 00:47:18,539 half an hour missing on the videos now 1063 00:47:22,729 --> 00:47:20,789 this is a common occurrence an alien 1064 00:47:25,839 --> 00:47:22,739 abduction that we call missing time so 1065 00:47:31,279 --> 00:47:25,849 yeah what did you think of that moment I 1066 00:47:34,339 --> 00:47:31,289 was just like at that point it was 1067 00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:34,349 almost a little too late for me like I 1068 00:47:37,699 --> 00:47:35,849 felt like that should have happened a 1069 00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:37,709 little bit earlier on at that point I 1070 00:47:41,989 --> 00:47:39,660 was like I was like all right clearly 1071 00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,999 something weird is going on here I 1072 00:47:45,859 --> 00:47:43,920 forgot that they even had the security 1073 00:47:47,390 --> 00:47:45,869 cameras speaking of like weird that was 1074 00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:47,400 a lot of camera it's like eight camera 1075 00:47:51,289 --> 00:47:49,529 streets oh he has a lot of cameras it's 1076 00:47:53,180 --> 00:47:51,299 just set up in your house when you can't 1077 00:47:58,339 --> 00:47:53,190 afford the security system to begin with 1078 00:48:05,989 --> 00:47:58,349 I know it's great sitting there like 1079 00:48:08,209 --> 00:48:05,999 Ozymandias while it was like fun and I 1080 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:08,219 hate to compare things to other movies 1081 00:48:13,699 --> 00:48:09,930 but that was a moment where I was like 1082 00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:13,709 I've seen this done better it felt like 1083 00:48:18,289 --> 00:48:16,049 less like an homage I say what you will 1084 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:18,299 about the movie there is a moment in the 1085 00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:21,690 M night Shyamalan movie signs where you 1086 00:48:26,299 --> 00:48:23,910 have the alien reveal or the alien 1087 00:48:28,130 --> 00:48:26,309 caught on footage reveal and it walks 1088 00:48:30,020 --> 00:48:28,140 across the screen and kind of looks 1089 00:48:31,970 --> 00:48:30,030 almost like Bigfoot like walks are 1090 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:31,980 the screen at this like birthday party 1091 00:48:39,340 --> 00:48:34,770 and just looks dead at the camera and 1092 00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:39,350 it's like this very unsettling like whoa 1093 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:43,440 this is my pop moment and in this at 1094 00:48:47,060 --> 00:48:45,570 that point like because it's so blurry 1095 00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:47,070 and he's literally just seeing this 1096 00:48:52,430 --> 00:48:50,310 player like it's like him realize that 1097 00:48:54,650 --> 00:48:52,440 moment feels like it's for the audience 1098 00:48:56,540 --> 00:48:54,660 when we already know that there's been 1099 00:48:58,820 --> 00:48:56,550 somebody else in the house you know like 1100 00:49:00,890 --> 00:48:58,830 I feel like we had already even seen one 1101 00:49:03,020 --> 00:49:00,900 of them at that point like cuz the kid 1102 00:49:05,060 --> 00:49:03,030 sees one or something or Keri Russell 1103 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:05,070 thinks she sees one in the kids room or 1104 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:07,770 something like that like yeah exactly so 1105 00:49:13,070 --> 00:49:10,530 we already know we had that move moment 1106 00:49:15,980 --> 00:49:13,080 and yet it lingers on there like that's 1107 00:49:19,730 --> 00:49:15,990 information that we need but we know 1108 00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:19,740 that already it's fun and again he's 1109 00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:22,110 playing it up as best as he can but it's 1110 00:49:27,650 --> 00:49:25,110 as far as moving that plot line forward 1111 00:49:30,620 --> 00:49:27,660 I was like we already like we know this 1112 00:49:32,660 --> 00:49:30,630 yeah we got it I get that from a 1113 00:49:35,330 --> 00:49:32,670 structural standpoint I think yeah it 1114 00:49:37,610 --> 00:49:35,340 was a little too late um someone like me 1115 00:49:39,860 --> 00:49:37,620 whose need teep in abduction lore like 1116 00:49:41,540 --> 00:49:39,870 it was our moment of like oh good they 1117 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:41,550 got something right like missing time 1118 00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,170 yes I think that there are ways that 1119 00:49:51,110 --> 00:49:48,240 they could have shown that like the 1120 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:51,120 missing time element almost at least for 1121 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:53,010 me gets lost and they're like oh yeah 1122 00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:55,050 half hour one pass but what we want to 1123 00:49:57,980 --> 00:49:56,220 know is like look there's something 1124 00:49:59,810 --> 00:49:57,990 standing in his house yeah at like eight 1125 00:50:01,160 --> 00:49:59,820 different points right I was just like 1126 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:01,170 well no the missing time is the 1127 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:03,330 interesting part like at this point 1128 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:04,370 that's a good point 1129 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:06,330 because I do agree that that's 1130 00:50:11,210 --> 00:50:08,370 interesting and that's it's cool to like 1131 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:11,220 I was wondering how many if you had to 1132 00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:15,450 say like in a percentage between zero 1133 00:50:20,180 --> 00:50:17,910 and a hundred percent what percentage of 1134 00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:20,190 the alien stuff that happens in this 1135 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:23,160 movie is based on things that have 1136 00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:25,530 happened in real life almost all of it 1137 00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:29,910 really 100% the problem the problem 1138 00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:32,700 though is that it's all happening to one 1139 00:50:38,180 --> 00:50:34,800 family in lay gotcha 1140 00:50:40,930 --> 00:50:38,190 I'm talking like decades and decades of 1141 00:50:43,610 --> 00:50:40,940 small subtle things happening to quote 1142 00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:43,620 experiencers and it's always like 1143 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:46,640 one of these elements or maybe guys 1144 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:48,810 again this is where I think the writer 1145 00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:51,570 just looked at all the bullet points of 1146 00:50:55,870 --> 00:50:53,640 alien abduction and said I'm putting 1147 00:51:00,770 --> 00:50:55,880 them all in one movie on like you know 1148 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:00,780 maximum Drive I mean it's crazy we have 1149 00:51:06,530 --> 00:51:04,170 the markings behind Daniel the dad's ear 1150 00:51:08,810 --> 00:51:06,540 that he finds and then these weird 1151 00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:08,820 geometric shaped wounds on one of the 1152 00:51:13,010 --> 00:51:11,250 kids know yeah these are actual girls 1153 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:13,020 these come from actual accounts of 1154 00:51:18,380 --> 00:51:14,930 people and I've seen them I've seen 1155 00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:18,390 implant incisions and I've seen markings 1156 00:51:26,210 --> 00:51:21,630 on people's bodies that are perfect 1157 00:51:28,730 --> 00:51:26,220 triangles or you know octagons or almost 1158 00:51:31,010 --> 00:51:28,740 like crop circles dug into a freaking 1159 00:51:32,270 --> 00:51:31,020 person's skin it's very unsettling I 1160 00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:32,280 mean whether or not it came from an 1161 00:51:37,130 --> 00:51:34,980 alien or an alien abduction was involved 1162 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:37,140 it's fascinating that the human body 1163 00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:39,930 could create something like that or if a 1164 00:51:46,030 --> 00:51:42,240 human being self inflicted themself in 1165 00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:46,040 that way - right yeah and I guess that 1166 00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:48,540 leads to the point - which is because 1167 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:50,550 they spread themselves so thin with all 1168 00:51:54,530 --> 00:51:52,770 these different like ooh this kid's got 1169 00:51:56,930 --> 00:51:54,540 bruises this guy's got a thing behind 1170 00:51:58,700 --> 00:51:56,940 his ear there's birds all well when you 1171 00:52:01,460 --> 00:51:58,710 get to the climax there's nothing for 1172 00:52:03,470 --> 00:52:01,470 them to really hang their hat like 1173 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:03,480 because they go so many different 1174 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:05,130 directions that it's hard for that to 1175 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:08,730 like focus at the end I think now would 1176 00:52:11,780 --> 00:52:10,410 be as good a time as ever to talk about 1177 00:52:15,980 --> 00:52:11,790 when they try to go and get some advice 1178 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:15,990 yeah about all this and we get our sweet 1179 00:52:24,590 --> 00:52:19,890 JK Simmons scene who I'm just have to 1180 00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:24,600 assume is good friends with Jason Blum 1181 00:52:29,060 --> 00:52:27,240 to some extent because they did bloom 1182 00:52:31,610 --> 00:52:29,070 house did do whiplash 1183 00:52:34,580 --> 00:52:31,620 okay okay that makes sense which was 1184 00:52:36,650 --> 00:52:34,590 yeah which was his big like one of the 1185 00:52:38,060 --> 00:52:36,660 biggest movies he's like I can't 1186 00:52:40,250 --> 00:52:38,070 remember if he won an Oscar for that he 1187 00:52:43,010 --> 00:52:40,260 at the very least got nominated that was 1188 00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:43,020 one of JK Simmons career roles so I'm 1189 00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:45,150 sure Jason Blum was like listen man you 1190 00:52:49,820 --> 00:52:47,160 come in we give you this much money you 1191 00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:49,830 just scores it there and then you go 1192 00:52:56,359 --> 00:52:55,110 home yeah I mean okay so he is I guess 1193 00:52:58,009 --> 00:52:56,369 basically 1194 00:53:02,029 --> 00:52:58,019 the family's sort of accepted at this 1195 00:53:04,819 --> 00:53:02,039 point that there is definitely something 1196 00:53:09,890 --> 00:53:04,829 going on and because of Kari Russell's 1197 00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:09,900 Google searches or search engine that 1198 00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:13,680 it's alien abduction and the husband 1199 00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:15,630 finally is like alright I'll entertain 1200 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:18,079 this I can't deny what I've seen and 1201 00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:21,210 experienced so they go to enlist the 1202 00:53:27,789 --> 00:53:24,960 help of mr. Pollard JK Simmons himself 1203 00:53:32,059 --> 00:53:27,799 mr. J jonah Jameson and the spider-man 1204 00:53:34,219 --> 00:53:32,069 remembers that and this is like where we 1205 00:53:37,339 --> 00:53:34,229 start to get the really big history of 1206 00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:37,349 the greys as we call them the alien and 1207 00:53:42,140 --> 00:53:39,599 well he gives three different 1208 00:53:43,819 --> 00:53:42,150 explanations yes he did I saw that once 1209 00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:43,829 again speaks to the movie and how 1210 00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:46,079 scattered it is because he's like oh 1211 00:53:53,059 --> 00:53:49,680 there grazed insectoids or reptilians 1212 00:53:54,589 --> 00:53:53,069 there's three basic now i am i first 1213 00:53:56,539 --> 00:53:54,599 question would be are those the three 1214 00:53:58,729 --> 00:53:56,549 basic things that go on or did he just 1215 00:54:00,259 --> 00:53:58,739 pick like okay we got greys I need two 1216 00:54:00,890 --> 00:54:00,269 other examples because we got rule of 1217 00:54:03,620 --> 00:54:00,900 threes 1218 00:54:05,839 --> 00:54:03,630 we both accept toys and reptilian it was 1219 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:05,849 in trouble the three he chose I mean 1220 00:54:10,099 --> 00:54:08,249 I've heard many counts of every kind of 1221 00:54:12,499 --> 00:54:10,109 race of alien you can possibly think of 1222 00:54:15,249 --> 00:54:12,509 so right why they chose three that 1223 00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:15,259 almost all looks similar to one another 1224 00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,079 was interesting an interesting choice 1225 00:54:23,989 --> 00:54:20,400 and maybe they were the most effective 1226 00:54:25,789 --> 00:54:23,999 so you know I don't know I I really feel 1227 00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:25,799 like the reptilian one was thrown in 1228 00:54:31,959 --> 00:54:28,319 because Jason Blum J is very 1229 00:54:34,910 --> 00:54:31,969 left-leaning very liberal and will often 1230 00:54:37,219 --> 00:54:34,920 take shots at right-wing people in his 1231 00:54:38,989 --> 00:54:37,229 movies at least far right-wing people 1232 00:54:41,390 --> 00:54:38,999 that's what we have that dad at the 1233 00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,400 random dad at the beginning who's 1234 00:54:47,809 --> 00:54:43,680 talking about he's like you want to hear 1235 00:54:49,969 --> 00:54:47,819 two scary things China and Iraq or China 1236 00:54:51,979 --> 00:54:49,979 and Iran heard something like that he's 1237 00:54:54,289 --> 00:54:51,989 like oh yeah like so they make him look 1238 00:54:56,420 --> 00:54:54,299 like a crazy person and then with the 1239 00:54:58,670 --> 00:54:56,430 reptilians they say like he's like 1240 00:55:01,579 --> 00:54:58,680 reptilians are the ones I the least at 1241 00:55:06,170 --> 00:55:01,589 least believe because it seemed like he 1242 00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,180 was saying that because if correct me if 1243 00:55:10,130 --> 00:55:08,640 I'm wrong a lot of the reptilian things 1244 00:55:13,849 --> 00:55:10,140 has a very like 1245 00:55:16,370 --> 00:55:13,859 cementec bass oh yeah absolutely yeah so 1246 00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:16,380 that feel like him felt like him taking 1247 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:19,609 a shot at another fringe belief in Tom 1248 00:55:25,819 --> 00:55:22,890 just because yeah yeah and then we get 1249 00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:25,829 into the my next question would be have 1250 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:29,880 you ever used anything akin to this UFO 1251 00:55:37,279 --> 00:55:34,650 test that JK said oh my god so this 1252 00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:37,289 these these do exist I mean there was a 1253 00:55:41,509 --> 00:55:39,839 faith really there's a famed UFO 1254 00:55:46,099 --> 00:55:41,519 abduction researcher named Budd Hopkins 1255 00:55:47,779 --> 00:55:46,109 he passed away not too long ago but I 1256 00:55:49,250 --> 00:55:47,789 mean hundreds and hundreds of people 1257 00:55:52,609 --> 00:55:49,260 would come to this guy he lived in 1258 00:55:54,769 --> 00:55:52,619 Manhattan and they sought him out he he 1259 00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:54,779 would hear out their stories and you 1260 00:56:00,920 --> 00:55:58,170 know recorded and he started to compile 1261 00:56:04,190 --> 00:56:00,930 like a list of like questions to ask if 1262 00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:04,200 you answer my aliens so I mean yeah it 1263 00:56:08,089 --> 00:56:05,730 makes sense if you're gonna compile 1264 00:56:10,190 --> 00:56:08,099 stories it's the same with UFO reports 1265 00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:10,200 if you go to the shore actual UFO 1266 00:56:14,990 --> 00:56:12,569 network and report a UFO there's like 1267 00:56:18,140 --> 00:56:15,000 strict guidelines like what time of day 1268 00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:18,150 was it um you know how big was the 1269 00:56:22,339 --> 00:56:20,220 object in terms of in relation to the 1270 00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:22,349 distance you were how many lights and 1271 00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:23,730 then you literally just tick off the 1272 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:26,640 boxes and then interrupts and then the 1273 00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:28,410 investigators decide if it's worth going 1274 00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:30,569 out to pursue or not so when he did that 1275 00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:33,000 it seemed a little dumb at first but 1276 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:34,079 then the more I thought about it I'm 1277 00:56:38,569 --> 00:56:35,730 like no that's what you would do to try 1278 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:38,579 to we as he says weed out the crazy you 1279 00:56:52,730 --> 00:56:43,890 say thank you yes I thought I was like 1280 00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,740 my first thought was that I was just 1281 00:56:57,609 --> 00:56:54,240 like you know what I bet you there was 1282 00:57:00,200 --> 00:56:57,619 somebody who did this so yeah yeah 1283 00:57:03,890 --> 00:57:00,210 another thing I wanted to add which I 1284 00:57:07,999 --> 00:57:03,900 thought really warmed my heart was the 1285 00:57:10,339 --> 00:57:08,009 state of mr. Pollard's apartment it is 1286 00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:10,349 like sure it hurt from wall to wall with 1287 00:57:15,980 --> 00:57:13,920 UFO photos and either strings connecting 1288 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:15,990 the like every conspiracy tinfoil hat 1289 00:57:21,499 --> 00:57:19,170 persons dream and seeing it somewhere 1290 00:57:24,890 --> 00:57:21,509 else besides my own apartment really put 1291 00:57:28,410 --> 00:57:24,900 it into perspective for me too 1292 00:57:30,770 --> 00:57:28,420 so recently I've let my girlfriend start 1293 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:30,780 to redecorate our place so that people 1294 00:57:37,170 --> 00:57:34,450 come over so yeah that was cool to see 1295 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:37,180 how my god yeah so this is what happens 1296 00:57:46,350 --> 00:57:40,090 when you get too obsessed with this so 1297 00:57:49,730 --> 00:57:46,360 good to know from him I do want to say 1298 00:57:52,650 --> 00:57:49,740 it's I have lived in quite a few 1299 00:57:56,250 --> 00:57:52,660 apartment buildings in New York City 1300 00:57:59,400 --> 00:57:56,260 since I've lived here some big some not 1301 00:58:02,760 --> 00:57:59,410 some be so big some like seven floors 1302 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:02,770 high some like three floors high I have 1303 00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:05,230 never been in an apartment building that 1304 00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:08,230 was as noisy as his building when they 1305 00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:11,200 are stood is standing outside of his 1306 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:12,910 door to go into his apartment when they 1307 00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:15,010 meet him there he comes back from the 1308 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:17,230 grocery store and there's just this 1309 00:58:23,250 --> 00:58:21,490 ambient chatter going on throughout the 1310 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:23,260 building and it was such an odd choice 1311 00:58:26,790 --> 00:58:24,850 it was almost like he lives in a 1312 00:58:28,770 --> 00:58:26,800 hospital or a school and maybe I guess 1313 00:58:30,990 --> 00:58:28,780 something that he does but it was like 1314 00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:31,000 they felt like he lived in a building 1315 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:34,720 that was just buzzing with people out of 1316 00:58:46,650 --> 00:58:44,010 couldn't even tell you what my neighbors 1317 00:58:49,350 --> 00:58:46,660 look like I mean I never 1318 00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:49,360 nobody ever interacts you know it's it's 1319 00:58:57,540 --> 00:58:54,400 that's a great point that is really 1320 00:58:59,730 --> 00:58:57,550 strange okay so so Daniel and what's her 1321 00:59:01,470 --> 00:58:59,740 name lacy they sit down with him he 1322 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:01,480 starts going through the list of like 1323 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:03,610 I'm gonna see if you guys are actually 1324 00:59:08,790 --> 00:59:06,610 abducted and the more he things off the 1325 00:59:11,490 --> 00:59:08,800 more he realizes and they realize yeah 1326 00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:11,500 like this is what he thinks is going on 1327 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:14,710 and he decides it's the grace which is 1328 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:17,410 the most common alien in abduction lore 1329 00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:20,170 these everyone knows you know gray body 1330 00:59:28,110 --> 00:59:23,680 big black eyes skinny skinny body as 1331 00:59:30,090 --> 00:59:28,120 well yeah very very iconic and it was 1332 00:59:33,180 --> 00:59:30,100 interesting to hear him describe like 1333 00:59:35,790 --> 00:59:33,190 what they do and their place in all of 1334 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:35,800 this I thought that was a creative 1335 00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:36,930 they're almost like the 1336 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:39,510 the worker bees I guess of the alien 1337 00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:47,970 race they choose us he's like [\h__\h] 1338 00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:51,839 fine now man really there's no rhyme or 1339 00:59:56,540 --> 00:59:54,329 reason to it right cuz you know a lot of 1340 00:59:59,809 --> 00:59:56,550 these people who are abducted they say 1341 01:00:01,460 --> 00:59:59,819 like oh I was chosen for a reason or I I 1342 01:00:03,740 --> 01:00:01,470 was special there was something unique 1343 01:00:05,870 --> 01:00:03,750 about me they wanted to experiment with 1344 01:00:07,579 --> 01:00:05,880 and this mr. prawler tells them straight 1345 01:00:10,190 --> 01:00:07,589 up there is nothing special about you 1346 01:00:13,460 --> 01:00:10,200 people like me they take who they want 1347 01:00:15,710 --> 01:00:13,470 when they want but again almost all of 1348 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:15,720 that is done away with the twisted the 1349 01:00:19,790 --> 01:00:18,450 yep yeah we yep oh we're we're getting 1350 01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:19,800 so close and I know that people 1351 01:00:25,250 --> 01:00:21,119 listening are like just wait to the 1352 01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:25,260 [\h__\h] twist we we will get there as 1353 01:00:30,740 --> 01:00:28,880 fast as the movie decided to get there 1354 01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:30,750 what was the other thing 1355 01:00:35,690 --> 01:00:33,359 oh he found this is where we kind of 1356 01:00:38,599 --> 01:00:35,700 seep back into the relationships be 1357 01:00:40,579 --> 01:00:38,609 between the family he tells them you 1358 01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:40,589 can't stop this from happening but your 1359 01:00:45,740 --> 01:00:43,710 best defense is to stay unified they use 1360 01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:45,750 fear and that's why they take one of you 1361 01:00:49,339 --> 01:00:47,760 they clearly want one of them the napal 1362 01:00:50,809 --> 01:00:49,349 from your family and they're gonna [\h__\h] 1363 01:00:53,870 --> 01:00:50,819 with you until they get the person they 1364 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:53,880 want so don't rely scared don't give in 1365 01:00:59,870 --> 01:00:56,690 to that and stay unified so now we have 1366 01:01:02,599 --> 01:00:59,880 having to sort of they've gone through 1367 01:01:05,030 --> 01:01:02,609 all this crazy traumatic weird stuff now 1368 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:05,040 they got to be a family again so this is 1369 01:01:10,910 --> 01:01:08,730 a kind of as we're inching towards I 1370 01:01:14,059 --> 01:01:10,920 guess the climax of the film it's now 1371 01:01:16,039 --> 01:01:14,069 the fourth of July at this point Daniel 1372 01:01:20,349 --> 01:01:16,049 he has boarded up the house 1373 01:01:24,049 --> 01:01:20,359 he buys a gun I really don't get I like 1374 01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:24,059 him being able to see clearly that these 1375 01:01:29,089 --> 01:01:26,000 things just appeared in his house 1376 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:29,099 instantaneously like I don't understand 1377 01:01:33,049 --> 01:01:31,290 why he put the boards on the windows but 1378 01:01:34,460 --> 01:01:33,059 then I don't think the movie understands 1379 01:01:37,970 --> 01:01:34,470 as well you know what I mean 1380 01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:37,980 yeah that's a really good and he gets a 1381 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:40,049 shotgun and I'm like I was like okay I 1382 01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:41,730 can't get this and then they don't get a 1383 01:01:48,410 --> 01:01:42,480 dog 1384 01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:48,420 okay it's very primal I feel like we've 1385 01:01:52,750 --> 01:01:50,480 resorted back to late 1386 01:01:55,020 --> 01:01:52,760 you know remember that time I told you 1387 01:01:57,730 --> 01:01:55,030 about the Hopkinsville goblins case 1388 01:02:00,370 --> 01:01:57,740 which you know the floating alien 1389 01:02:02,350 --> 01:02:00,380 goblins and the family was shootin at 1390 01:02:04,540 --> 01:02:02,360 him and they terrorized this family like 1391 01:02:06,250 --> 01:02:04,550 there was a lot of callbacks to that in 1392 01:02:08,860 --> 01:02:06,260 this movie especially in the last scene 1393 01:02:11,260 --> 01:02:08,870 what I think the movie signs also got a 1394 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:11,270 lot of its inspiration as well this nice 1395 01:02:16,570 --> 01:02:14,090 remote area where a family is being 1396 01:02:17,950 --> 01:02:16,580 hunted or terrorized by these aliens now 1397 01:02:20,290 --> 01:02:17,960 in this movie it's not a remote area 1398 01:02:22,180 --> 01:02:20,300 they live literally within feet of other 1399 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:22,190 people and that's my next question for 1400 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:23,930 you Andrew so it's the fourth of July 1401 01:02:28,330 --> 01:02:26,330 there's clearly people outside doing 1402 01:02:30,070 --> 01:02:28,340 fireworks and everything and then you 1403 01:02:32,820 --> 01:02:30,080 have this family holed up in their house 1404 01:02:36,850 --> 01:02:32,830 waiting for appending like alien 1405 01:02:38,740 --> 01:02:36,860 invasion of sorts so I mean the just and 1406 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:38,750 there is interesting but I don't think 1407 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:42,170 it was well thought out either no it was 1408 01:02:48,730 --> 01:02:45,170 just a lot of the stuff in the way in 1409 01:02:49,930 --> 01:02:48,740 the last like 20 15 minutes felt like it 1410 01:02:53,770 --> 01:02:49,940 was like all right we're just gonna 1411 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:53,780 barrel through to make this ending as 1412 01:02:58,180 --> 01:02:56,090 explosive as possible here's all these 1413 01:03:01,000 --> 01:02:58,190 set pieces here's there's a shotgun 1414 01:03:02,650 --> 01:03:01,010 here's a loud dog here's boards that can 1415 01:03:04,060 --> 01:03:02,660 be stripped off the walls and have the 1416 01:03:06,130 --> 01:03:04,070 screws come out and stuff like that 1417 01:03:08,170 --> 01:03:06,140 here's its fourth of July so we're gonna 1418 01:03:09,910 --> 01:03:08,180 have fireworks going off but it felt 1419 01:03:12,910 --> 01:03:09,920 like they were like we need to make this 1420 01:03:14,890 --> 01:03:12,920 finale bombastic there's not a lot of 1421 01:03:17,290 --> 01:03:14,900 substance but at the same time I will 1422 01:03:19,030 --> 01:03:17,300 admit I did fall victim to it like my 1423 01:03:21,610 --> 01:03:19,040 heart was pounding even in these last 1424 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:21,620 few minutes because you're right they 1425 01:03:26,530 --> 01:03:24,050 throw everything at you it's clear the 1426 01:03:28,510 --> 01:03:26,540 family cannot stop this force coming 1427 01:03:30,430 --> 01:03:28,520 into their house why they didn't just go 1428 01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:30,440 outside where there's other people I 1429 01:03:35,380 --> 01:03:32,240 don't know okay 1430 01:03:36,850 --> 01:03:35,390 this idea of like yeah of isolating 1431 01:03:37,870 --> 01:03:36,860 themselves seems like the worst thing 1432 01:03:41,740 --> 01:03:37,880 they could have done in this situation 1433 01:03:44,020 --> 01:03:41,750 but again we wouldn't get to the climax 1434 01:03:48,030 --> 01:03:44,030 that we have if they had done that and 1435 01:03:50,890 --> 01:03:48,040 again worse right kind of at the writers 1436 01:03:55,930 --> 01:03:50,900 disposal at this point I would say yes 1437 01:03:58,330 --> 01:03:55,940 and because we've gotten no clear idea 1438 01:04:00,430 --> 01:03:58,340 of what these aliens are doing though it 1439 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:00,440 seems odd that the family is like well 1440 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:01,850 we need to do this this and this and 1441 01:04:05,770 --> 01:04:03,530 that's exactly what will help like 1442 01:04:08,410 --> 01:04:05,780 hide it she tosses the little kids in 1443 01:04:10,690 --> 01:04:08,420 their room at one point which apparently 1444 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:10,700 doesn't matter cuz moments later when 1445 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:12,530 they're given back to her she's like a 1446 01:04:16,660 --> 01:04:14,450 static and it's like I thought you 1447 01:04:19,450 --> 01:04:16,670 wanted them to hide in her room there's 1448 01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:19,460 one moment that really I thought was fun 1449 01:04:24,340 --> 01:04:21,280 and well done which is that she's 1450 01:04:26,170 --> 01:04:24,350 walking down the hallway when like 1451 01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:26,180 shit's hittin the fan the aliens are 1452 01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:28,480 said there's lights outside I guess 1453 01:04:34,420 --> 01:04:31,280 again things that no one else is seeing 1454 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:34,430 for some reason in a very populated 1455 01:04:38,740 --> 01:04:37,370 suburban area and it's fourth of July so 1456 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:38,750 it's not like people are probably like 1457 01:04:44,770 --> 01:04:41,090 awake or asleep yet cuz this happens 1458 01:04:46,030 --> 01:04:44,780 over like dinnertime right machines she 1459 01:04:47,500 --> 01:04:46,040 throws the kids in a room while the 1460 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:47,510 dad's downstairs with the dog on the 1461 01:04:51,490 --> 01:04:49,850 shotgun and she's walking down the hall 1462 01:04:54,490 --> 01:04:51,500 and we see one of these Grey's behind 1463 01:04:57,820 --> 01:04:54,500 her so ones already in the house and it 1464 01:05:00,180 --> 01:04:57,830 just follows her reaches towards her 1465 01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:00,190 almost touches her and then pulls back 1466 01:05:06,070 --> 01:05:03,310 for no reason that was weird yeah it's 1467 01:05:07,750 --> 01:05:06,080 not even like she sees it or like it 1468 01:05:12,430 --> 01:05:07,760 becomes aware to its presence it's like 1469 01:05:15,370 --> 01:05:12,440 up like well why like what wouldn't what 1470 01:05:17,620 --> 01:05:15,380 are we doing here what do you why if it 1471 01:05:19,570 --> 01:05:17,630 was so easy for them to do what they 1472 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:19,580 eventually end up doing why didn't they 1473 01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:22,210 just do it like it's this weird idea 1474 01:05:28,690 --> 01:05:24,710 because we never get a clear definition 1475 01:05:31,870 --> 01:05:28,700 or a clear answer even a simple answer 1476 01:05:35,370 --> 01:05:31,880 as to what these aliens are doing their 1477 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:35,380 motives and their actions make no sense 1478 01:05:41,620 --> 01:05:39,290 yeah I would like it's just it's messy I 1479 01:05:43,780 --> 01:05:41,630 mean he's say he says they're like oh he 1480 01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:43,790 says that they use fear to pick on them 1481 01:05:48,490 --> 01:05:46,400 but you know the things that they do 1482 01:05:51,010 --> 01:05:48,500 like that all they do is like slam a 1483 01:05:53,290 --> 01:05:51,020 door closed and lock her in a room which 1484 01:05:54,970 --> 01:05:53,300 is like they're freaking her out but 1485 01:05:57,340 --> 01:05:54,980 she's not the one that they eventually 1486 01:06:00,730 --> 01:05:57,350 take their breaking into the house 1487 01:06:03,340 --> 01:06:00,740 downstairs but then we find out that the 1488 01:06:05,650 --> 01:06:03,350 Dead is eventually fine yeah like he 1489 01:06:08,620 --> 01:06:05,660 runs upstairs like nothing happened well 1490 01:06:11,020 --> 01:06:08,630 let's get to who they want to take now 1491 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:11,030 this is where it just kind of goes 1492 01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:15,410 completely in overdrive and bananas man 1493 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:16,880 the aliens start to close 1494 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:19,250 in the family we see like a [\h__\h] ton of 1495 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:21,890 them like I guess a gaggle of Grey's to 1496 01:06:32,260 --> 01:06:24,410 call him in the lovin a lot like that 1497 01:06:39,250 --> 01:06:32,270 I'm gonna copyright that T on this guy's 1498 01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:39,260 t-shirt so okay let's go back to the DS 1499 01:06:44,020 --> 01:06:42,110 aliens use fear so we think they're 1500 01:06:45,490 --> 01:06:44,030 massively gonna take Sammy the youngest 1501 01:06:46,780 --> 01:06:45,500 kid that seems to be where the movie was 1502 01:06:48,700 --> 01:06:46,790 heading this whole time 1503 01:06:52,270 --> 01:06:48,710 yes youngest kid is the most vulnerable 1504 01:06:55,500 --> 01:06:52,280 and let's do anything and as the family 1505 01:06:58,870 --> 01:06:55,510 is fending off the aliens Jesse gets 1506 01:07:02,620 --> 01:06:58,880 transported to some weird nightmare I 1507 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:02,630 guess where his mom is his dad kills 1508 01:07:09,430 --> 01:07:07,370 himself it's very own yes yeah and it's 1509 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:09,440 insinuated that the dad killed the mom 1510 01:07:16,450 --> 01:07:12,530 and it was honestly for a moment because 1511 01:07:19,090 --> 01:07:16,460 when he when the the ply boards came 1512 01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:19,100 down and he fired the shotgun I was like 1513 01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:21,680 ooh I hope he shot somebody that's not 1514 01:07:27,250 --> 01:07:24,550 an alien yeah that would have been like 1515 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:27,260 if they're if they're just doing it like 1516 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:31,610 The Twilight Zone set the scene for a 1517 01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:35,090 lot of stories to come from American pop 1518 01:07:38,890 --> 01:07:37,400 culture and cinema and writings and 1519 01:07:41,590 --> 01:07:38,900 literature and what-have-you 1520 01:07:44,050 --> 01:07:41,600 the monsters are due on Maple Street is 1521 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:44,060 one of my favorites which is a Twilight 1522 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:46,730 Zone episode where they it's a similar 1523 01:07:50,830 --> 01:07:48,650 thing where these people like something 1524 01:07:52,690 --> 01:07:50,840 shoots across the sky and all the power 1525 01:07:54,550 --> 01:07:52,700 in the streets go Street goes out and 1526 01:07:56,830 --> 01:07:54,560 all the people that live on the street 1527 01:08:00,130 --> 01:07:56,840 start blaming each other and eventually 1528 01:08:01,660 --> 01:08:00,140 somebody gets killed by accident that 1529 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:01,670 they sent off to like investigate the 1530 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:03,650 next block and then it turns out that it 1531 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:06,290 was literally just these aliens going 1532 01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:09,530 like oh like you know we shut off their 1533 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:10,880 power and look what they did do each 1534 01:08:14,350 --> 01:08:12,290 other let's move on to the next block 1535 01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:14,360 like it's a similar idea of like these 1536 01:08:22,690 --> 01:08:18,560 aliens using fear to just observe the 1537 01:08:25,230 --> 01:08:22,700 human race this feels like it felt like 1538 01:08:27,970 --> 01:08:25,240 it was going in that direction but then 1539 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:27,980 everything has kind of a simple Android 1540 01:08:30,700 --> 01:08:29,690 like I guess he shot at nothing and he 1541 01:08:32,380 --> 01:08:30,710 just went upstairs and the 1542 01:08:33,579 --> 01:08:32,390 kids were in their room but then they're 1543 01:08:35,860 --> 01:08:33,589 out of their room because they're just 1544 01:08:38,620 --> 01:08:35,870 okay and then this kid sees what we 1545 01:08:41,019 --> 01:08:38,630 thought might be like the things going 1546 01:08:43,630 --> 01:08:41,029 awry to put it mildly and then it just 1547 01:08:46,059 --> 01:08:43,640 ends up being yeah like a nightmare I 1548 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:46,069 guess it's some weird nightmare so yeah 1549 01:08:51,579 --> 01:08:49,250 he mom's dead dad kills himself 1550 01:08:55,150 --> 01:08:51,589 Sammy's running around the home clearly 1551 01:08:57,309 --> 01:08:55,160 like possessed and then he sees the girl 1552 01:08:58,630 --> 01:08:57,319 II kissed with his friend there watching 1553 01:09:00,340 --> 01:08:58,640 the porn then they watched in the 1554 01:09:03,670 --> 01:09:00,350 beginning of them it was so weird 1555 01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:03,680 and it you know like okay we have all 1556 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:07,279 these images of what could be or what 1557 01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:09,890 has happened mixed together and Jesse is 1558 01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:12,080 just having this really strange strange 1559 01:09:16,300 --> 01:09:14,450 nightmare or isn't real 1560 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:16,310 we don't know and then the moment he 1561 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:18,890 sort of snaps out of it we see him 1562 01:09:23,349 --> 01:09:21,170 separated from the family they're all 1563 01:09:25,930 --> 01:09:23,359 staring at him and this is the moment 1564 01:09:28,990 --> 01:09:25,940 where you're like oh my god this was 1565 01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:29,000 like was it or was it not maybe they're 1566 01:09:32,260 --> 01:09:30,080 playing all along 1567 01:09:34,660 --> 01:09:32,270 they finally like the fear induced into 1568 01:09:37,630 --> 01:09:34,670 this kids so much that he's lost in 1569 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:37,640 another world and they use that to take 1570 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:40,489 him yeah and then yeah we see that like 1571 01:09:45,309 --> 01:09:43,250 the next thing that happens is we see JK 1572 01:09:46,690 --> 01:09:45,319 Simmons character reading a paper just 1573 01:09:49,269 --> 01:09:46,700 so they can throw him in there one more 1574 01:09:51,940 --> 01:09:49,279 time and it says he cuts out an article 1575 01:09:54,970 --> 01:09:51,950 that says like Oh parents blamed for 1576 01:09:57,550 --> 01:09:54,980 child's disappearance and then he puts 1577 01:09:59,229 --> 01:09:57,560 it up on his wall of stuff but then it 1578 01:10:00,910 --> 01:09:59,239 goes three months later and it seems 1579 01:10:04,540 --> 01:10:00,920 like there were no repercussions from 1580 01:10:07,870 --> 01:10:04,550 that at all we get like one offline of 1581 01:10:09,490 --> 01:10:07,880 the dad being like the Child Protective 1582 01:10:12,370 --> 01:10:09,500 Services are stopping by today or 1583 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:12,380 something it's like oh yeah so there was 1584 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:16,250 no any investigation into you mouth like 1585 01:10:20,500 --> 01:10:18,890 and guess what bro if they're coming by 1586 01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:20,510 they're gonna take your kid because 1587 01:10:24,580 --> 01:10:22,310 you've got a bunch of crazy [\h__\h] pinned 1588 01:10:26,290 --> 01:10:24,590 up on your walls like it they I feel 1589 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:26,300 like they were going for fun like oh now 1590 01:10:30,670 --> 01:10:28,730 the parents are gonna be our life JK 1591 01:10:33,130 --> 01:10:30,680 Simmons character and because they were 1592 01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:33,140 affected by this they want to start 1593 01:10:36,070 --> 01:10:34,910 looking at all the details and looking 1594 01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:36,080 at all these different stories and 1595 01:10:39,940 --> 01:10:37,910 they've got their own map and pinups and 1596 01:10:42,970 --> 01:10:39,950 stuff like that but it doesn't really 1597 01:10:44,650 --> 01:10:42,980 add to anything yeah because we do we 1598 01:10:47,770 --> 01:10:44,660 don't really see they see 1599 01:10:50,140 --> 01:10:47,780 I'm fine yeah like I know it's three 1600 01:10:52,450 --> 01:10:50,150 months later but they still seem like 1601 01:10:54,970 --> 01:10:52,460 they've recovered pretty well and they 1602 01:11:00,970 --> 01:10:54,980 have an incredibly recent picture of 1603 01:11:04,270 --> 01:11:00,980 Jessie haaa looks like it was taking on 1604 01:11:08,290 --> 01:11:04,280 a cellphone but it's a huge picture and 1605 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:08,300 then we get um we go from that to her 1606 01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:10,130 going now like a running thing that we 1607 01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:12,320 see earlier on is that Sammy is doing 1608 01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:16,490 drawings of himself holding the hands of 1609 01:11:23,070 --> 01:11:19,760 a tall thin man a gray presumably so 1610 01:11:26,650 --> 01:11:23,080 here we have Keri Russell going through 1611 01:11:28,650 --> 01:11:26,660 Jesse's old box of stuff and she finds 1612 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:28,660 pictures of him when he was younger and 1613 01:11:35,670 --> 01:11:32,810 then she finds similar drawings that he 1614 01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:35,680 had done when he was a little kid and 1615 01:11:41,290 --> 01:11:38,480 then she starts going back and having 1616 01:11:42,850 --> 01:11:41,300 these flashbacks to the conversation 1617 01:11:44,890 --> 01:11:42,860 about that she had with the mom about 1618 01:11:48,610 --> 01:11:44,900 Jesse being sick when he was little and 1619 01:11:50,470 --> 01:11:48,620 baby being allergic to this world and oh 1620 01:11:53,470 --> 01:11:50,480 there was something else that's brought 1621 01:11:56,770 --> 01:11:53,480 up where they and I could be wrong about 1622 01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:56,780 this and I will say that this was a 1623 01:12:02,920 --> 01:11:59,120 twist that I found hard to interpret 1624 01:12:08,830 --> 01:12:02,930 that either he had been targeted his 1625 01:12:11,110 --> 01:12:08,840 whole life or Jesse is not human yeah so 1626 01:12:13,930 --> 01:12:11,120 this is where I eat - I'm like what the 1627 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:13,940 [\h__\h] I I don't get what are we supposed 1628 01:12:19,150 --> 01:12:16,010 to know the answer or not because it was 1629 01:12:20,980 --> 01:12:19,160 not liar in any way shape or form and 1630 01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:20,990 all and then when I started to look back 1631 01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:22,880 I was like I think it's airing on the 1632 01:12:29,050 --> 01:12:25,760 side of him not being human because most 1633 01:12:31,330 --> 01:12:29,060 of this stuff is about his character is 1634 01:12:33,220 --> 01:12:31,340 him adjusting to being a teenager but 1635 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:33,230 you could just have that be interpretive 1636 01:12:39,940 --> 01:12:35,810 and interpreted as him adjusting to 1637 01:12:42,340 --> 01:12:39,950 being a human human being and the oh he 1638 01:12:44,500 --> 01:12:42,350 was allergic to the world line I was 1639 01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:44,510 like oh so is he not from this world 1640 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:47,120 right like that seems like a specific 1641 01:12:51,570 --> 01:12:50,210 line to bring back a little - ah yeah 1642 01:12:54,030 --> 01:12:51,580 yeah 1643 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:54,040 then we get this last little tag with 1644 01:12:58,980 --> 01:12:57,370 the Sammy's walkie-talkie going off and 1645 01:13:02,670 --> 01:12:58,990 I guess it's apparently Jesse 1646 01:13:06,330 --> 01:13:02,680 communicating and then yeah so then I'm 1647 01:13:10,410 --> 01:13:06,340 just like okay and then it just ends 1648 01:13:13,620 --> 01:13:10,420 yeah yeah so I need we are left with the 1649 01:13:15,090 --> 01:13:13,630 question was Jesse and alien were they 1650 01:13:18,710 --> 01:13:15,100 coming back to get him 1651 01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:18,720 or was he some sort of there's a lot of 1652 01:13:23,310 --> 01:13:21,070 research done in the abduction realm 1653 01:13:25,620 --> 01:13:23,320 where people believe they're taken and 1654 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:25,630 either from men's sperm is taken or 1655 01:13:32,580 --> 01:13:29,890 women they're creating these alien-human 1656 01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:32,590 hybrid programs where they want to see 1657 01:13:38,940 --> 01:13:36,400 how we mix with one another or was he 1658 01:13:41,550 --> 01:13:38,950 you know an alien put into a human body 1659 01:13:44,730 --> 01:13:41,560 to learn how to become a human like oh 1660 01:13:47,820 --> 01:13:44,740 it's right it's too much and it's too 1661 01:13:50,220 --> 01:13:47,830 big for this movie to be on yes yes Oh 1662 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:50,230 Oh big time why they decided to do this 1663 01:13:55,230 --> 01:13:52,570 twist at the end I I don't know I'm 1664 01:13:57,180 --> 01:13:55,240 going with that he was the target all 1665 01:14:00,840 --> 01:13:57,190 along and we're just not supposed to 1666 01:14:03,090 --> 01:14:00,850 know that and he had like premonitions 1667 01:14:04,770 --> 01:14:03,100 this was going to happen or it's not the 1668 01:14:07,380 --> 01:14:04,780 first time he's ever been taken this 1669 01:14:14,250 --> 01:14:07,390 just is the like the final time maybe I 1670 01:14:16,260 --> 01:14:14,260 don't know right yeah I not to get too 1671 01:14:19,050 --> 01:14:16,270 much into like my own conspiracy 1672 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:19,060 theories but well if you look back the 1673 01:14:24,180 --> 01:14:21,730 Weinsteins are notorious for going in 1674 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:24,190 and changing movies as they are being 1675 01:14:28,980 --> 01:14:27,010 made sometimes for the better they made 1676 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:28,990 a lot of like the dimension films and 1677 01:14:33,870 --> 01:14:31,210 the weinstein company made a lot of 1678 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:33,880 great movies and but most of the time 1679 01:14:37,380 --> 01:14:35,410 it's for the worse 1680 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:37,390 worse there's and that especially 1681 01:14:39,870 --> 01:14:39,010 happens in horror movies they think they 1682 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:39,880 know what they're doing with horror 1683 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:41,410 movies and they always like to add 1684 01:14:50,340 --> 01:14:47,050 stupid schlocky things and to try to do 1685 01:14:52,170 --> 01:14:50,350 like a mass appeal I know this was 1686 01:14:55,190 --> 01:14:52,180 several years later but it felt very 1687 01:14:57,390 --> 01:14:55,200 like Paranormal Activity twists to me 1688 01:14:59,880 --> 01:14:57,400 like I feel like they were just like oh 1689 01:15:01,230 --> 01:14:59,890 no we need to make the twist that he was 1690 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:01,240 an alien the whole time or something 1691 01:15:04,490 --> 01:15:03,130 like that I really have a hard time 1692 01:15:07,310 --> 01:15:04,500 believing that 1693 01:15:09,470 --> 01:15:07,320 that was part of the movie to begin with 1694 01:15:11,090 --> 01:15:09,480 like so much so that if you were to tell 1695 01:15:13,340 --> 01:15:11,100 me that they finished filming the movie 1696 01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:13,350 the last scene was going to be JK 1697 01:15:17,450 --> 01:15:15,600 Simmons adding them to his wall I 1698 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:17,460 literally thought the movie was about to 1699 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:20,250 end I was like okay that's like at least 1700 01:15:23,300 --> 01:15:22,170 an ambiguous ending you don't really 1701 01:15:24,650 --> 01:15:23,310 know what happened and you know probably 1702 01:15:27,020 --> 01:15:24,660 the parents got in trouble for what 1703 01:15:29,060 --> 01:15:27,030 happened or got blamed but instead they 1704 01:15:31,850 --> 01:15:29,070 like double down and try to give an 1705 01:15:34,430 --> 01:15:31,860 extra explanation in a scene that seems 1706 01:15:37,850 --> 01:15:34,440 very thrown together as if to just give 1707 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:37,860 like a like a big twist scare at the end 1708 01:15:44,570 --> 01:15:40,290 and it's just it is just not effective 1709 01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:44,580 it's not it just it didn't work I just I 1710 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:47,760 thought overall like I appreciated 1711 01:15:55,550 --> 01:15:51,090 trying to make a alien abduction horror 1712 01:15:57,350 --> 01:15:55,560 movie there's a lot to work with there 1713 01:15:59,870 --> 01:15:57,360 and I think they had some of those 1714 01:16:03,980 --> 01:15:59,880 elements in there like it's a here 1715 01:16:06,350 --> 01:16:03,990 you're feeding on a fear that some 1716 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:06,360 people actually have it's just like 1717 01:16:09,860 --> 01:16:07,650 making a horror movie out of a 1718 01:16:13,460 --> 01:16:09,870 possession story like there's their 1719 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:13,470 things people everybody for the earth a 1720 01:16:17,390 --> 01:16:15,570 lot of people have a friend who knows a 1721 01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:17,400 friend who was abducted or has a friend 1722 01:16:20,330 --> 01:16:18,480 who knows a friend who knows somebody 1723 01:16:23,110 --> 01:16:20,340 who was possessed like there's a there's 1724 01:16:26,690 --> 01:16:23,120 a lot that's a deep well to draw from 1725 01:16:30,620 --> 01:16:26,700 and I think that they probably had the 1726 01:16:35,420 --> 01:16:30,630 best intentions but because I feel like 1727 01:16:40,490 --> 01:16:35,430 I would be very surprised to hear that 1728 01:16:42,740 --> 01:16:40,500 this director and writer is a UFO person 1729 01:16:45,710 --> 01:16:42,750 if you were to tell me like oh this guy 1730 01:16:48,230 --> 01:16:45,720 actually knows a lot about UFOs and UFO 1731 01:16:50,180 --> 01:16:48,240 phenomena I would be surprised because 1732 01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:50,190 like you said it's really more of a 1733 01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:52,320 smorgasbord of things like he winning 1734 01:16:55,580 --> 01:16:54,330 took like one sentence and then it was 1735 01:16:57,230 --> 01:16:55,590 just like well I'm gonna throw this in 1736 01:17:00,820 --> 01:16:57,240 because that's kind of cool like it 1737 01:17:04,250 --> 01:17:00,830 doesn't seem to have very much an 1738 01:17:06,890 --> 01:17:04,260 understanding or a really firm grasp on 1739 01:17:08,510 --> 01:17:06,900 the store on D like stories it's trying 1740 01:17:09,590 --> 01:17:08,520 to draw from you know what I mean Oh 1741 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:09,600 totally yeah 1742 01:17:17,180 --> 01:17:13,170 again I just feel like Stewart he he 1743 01:17:18,229 --> 01:17:17,190 skimmed the very the first search result 1744 01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:18,239 he found on a 1745 01:17:23,959 --> 01:17:21,360 abduction and just went with it yeah you 1746 01:17:25,879 --> 01:17:23,969 know and he he did he took every trope 1747 01:17:27,290 --> 01:17:25,889 whether abduction or paranormal he 1748 01:17:30,169 --> 01:17:27,300 mashed him together he threw everything 1749 01:17:32,689 --> 01:17:30,179 into the movie and it was contrived but 1750 01:17:34,910 --> 01:17:32,699 overall man I mean I thought I thought 1751 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:34,920 he was well written in terms of like the 1752 01:17:42,140 --> 01:17:38,570 dialogue and sure it had a good build 1753 01:17:45,290 --> 01:17:42,150 mostly up to the climax and looked great 1754 01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:45,300 it looked good it was very slick and it 1755 01:17:49,819 --> 01:17:48,480 had a style the acting was good I 1756 01:17:53,390 --> 01:17:49,829 thought all of the people did a really 1757 01:17:57,770 --> 01:17:53,400 good job pretty tremendous it's a you 1758 01:17:59,629 --> 01:17:57,780 you got like the main I always love when 1759 01:18:01,279 --> 01:17:59,639 you like it's a the main actors were 1760 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:01,289 fantastic and you even get somebody like 1761 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:03,690 JK Simmons come in and giving it very 1762 01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:06,570 reserved and grounded performance I feel 1763 01:18:09,739 --> 01:18:08,400 like any other movie and usually any 1764 01:18:11,810 --> 01:18:09,749 other actor would take that opportunity 1765 01:18:14,509 --> 01:18:11,820 to be like alright here's the crazy that 1766 01:18:16,910 --> 01:18:14,519 believes in everything and instead you 1767 01:18:19,339 --> 01:18:16,920 get this guy who's like almost like 1768 01:18:22,339 --> 01:18:19,349 weary and burdened by the information 1769 01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:22,349 that he has which I really liked like 1770 01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:25,920 he's just like yes Ari this is this is 1771 01:18:27,890 --> 01:18:27,449 probably what it is I've seen this 1772 01:18:30,049 --> 01:18:27,900 before 1773 01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:30,059 look I got this behind my like he's got 1774 01:18:36,109 --> 01:18:31,920 this horrendous scar behind his ear like 1775 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:36,119 there's instead of being like like he's 1776 01:18:42,649 --> 01:18:39,090 just very very grounded and I think that 1777 01:18:44,660 --> 01:18:42,659 is a testament to the director and the 1778 01:18:46,729 --> 01:18:44,670 style that he was going for and the act 1779 01:18:49,399 --> 01:18:46,739 like the kind of acting choices that he 1780 01:18:51,500 --> 01:18:49,409 was trying to stick with from his from 1781 01:18:53,029 --> 01:18:51,510 his actors and I yeah I agree like 1782 01:18:54,859 --> 01:18:53,039 there's a lot of those decisions were 1783 01:18:57,500 --> 01:18:54,869 very strong it's just the story itself 1784 01:19:00,890 --> 01:18:57,510 was just kind of a little all over the 1785 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:00,900 place and well let's look at the run 1786 01:19:09,399 --> 01:19:03,210 Tomatoes score for this movie we've got 1787 01:19:13,689 --> 01:19:09,409 a 41% but critics a 49% by audience so 1788 01:19:18,529 --> 01:19:13,699 Wow say what you may about the movie 1789 01:19:21,859 --> 01:19:18,539 well personally Andrew out of a rating 1790 01:19:25,250 --> 01:19:21,869 system of Gray's what do you give this 1791 01:19:27,859 --> 01:19:25,260 movie out of one to five Gray's one to 1792 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:27,869 five Gray's I would give it probably to 1793 01:19:33,540 --> 01:19:31,449 Gray's I really I would I would want to 1794 01:19:39,989 --> 01:19:33,550 more but there's there's so much about a 1795 01:19:42,149 --> 01:19:39,999 movie mehar de start of any storytelling 1796 01:19:44,219 --> 01:19:42,159 is sticking the landing and hitting the 1797 01:19:48,359 --> 01:19:44,229 ending and you want all these elements 1798 01:19:50,969 --> 01:19:48,369 to try to pull together to make a 1799 01:19:53,069 --> 01:19:50,979 cohesive story that give that becomes as 1800 01:19:55,770 --> 01:19:53,079 satisfying at the end as it may have 1801 01:19:58,379 --> 01:19:55,780 been at the beginning and it don't come 1802 01:20:00,719 --> 01:19:58,389 here on that is not easy it's not an 1803 01:20:02,219 --> 01:20:00,729 easy thing to do but when you have a 1804 01:20:04,589 --> 01:20:02,229 movie where you sit there and you get 1805 01:20:07,049 --> 01:20:04,599 invested and I really was like I was on 1806 01:20:09,390 --> 01:20:07,059 for the on board until we got into the 1807 01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:09,400 third act and then I started to be like 1808 01:20:14,339 --> 01:20:11,920 wait what movie is this like what what's 1809 01:20:17,370 --> 01:20:14,349 happening here and because the elements 1810 01:20:20,279 --> 01:20:17,380 leading up to it were so scattered it 1811 01:20:24,330 --> 01:20:20,289 not only had a hard time bringing things 1812 01:20:26,759 --> 01:20:24,340 together the ending made some of the 1813 01:20:30,569 --> 01:20:26,769 elements that we had experienced before 1814 01:20:32,549 --> 01:20:30,579 worse in my opinion yeah like and not as 1815 01:20:33,989 --> 01:20:32,559 satisfying the ending I the ending of 1816 01:20:37,799 --> 01:20:33,999 this movie I think did it a great 1817 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:37,809 disservice joy my wife came out into the 1818 01:20:41,009 --> 01:20:39,010 living room at one point when I was 1819 01:20:42,899 --> 01:20:41,019 watching it weird towards the end and I 1820 01:20:45,959 --> 01:20:42,909 remember her being out there and at one 1821 01:20:48,660 --> 01:20:45,969 point she heard me I I forget what the 1822 01:20:52,979 --> 01:20:48,670 moment was but I audibly started 1823 01:20:56,910 --> 01:20:52,989 laughing oh exactly like and it's it's 1824 01:20:59,279 --> 01:20:56,920 and that's listen again I don't want to 1825 01:21:00,959 --> 01:20:59,289 like disparage anybody on this 1826 01:21:02,939 --> 01:21:00,969 particular movie I usually have no 1827 01:21:04,649 --> 01:21:02,949 problem taking shots every now and then 1828 01:21:06,509 --> 01:21:04,659 I really think that there are a lot of 1829 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:06,519 elements in this movie that just got out 1830 01:21:09,449 --> 01:21:07,570 of people's hands 1831 01:21:11,549 --> 01:21:09,459 maybe and who knows I wasn't there and 1832 01:21:13,500 --> 01:21:11,559 I've never made a movie like a 1833 01:21:15,060 --> 01:21:13,510 big-budget like you know this movie cost 1834 01:21:17,219 --> 01:21:15,070 like fifteen million dollars to make or 1835 01:21:21,029 --> 01:21:17,229 something like that it's not an easy 1836 01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:21,039 feat to accomplish but there's when you 1837 01:21:25,770 --> 01:21:24,400 have this story it felt like the whole 1838 01:21:28,469 --> 01:21:25,780 story they could have taken like another 1839 01:21:30,209 --> 01:21:28,479 pass at the script before they started 1840 01:21:32,069 --> 01:21:30,219 shooting you know what I mean it's just 1841 01:21:34,859 --> 01:21:32,079 something to really bring everything 1842 01:21:36,750 --> 01:21:34,869 that it's like just to take some element 1843 01:21:38,819 --> 01:21:36,760 maybe even if the birds came back maybe 1844 01:21:41,009 --> 01:21:38,829 if we get even just got like some more 1845 01:21:43,799 --> 01:21:41,019 explanation as to what was going on but 1846 01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:43,809 it felt like they left things purposely 1847 01:21:46,650 --> 01:21:44,800 vague 1848 01:21:50,370 --> 01:21:46,660 so they could just go bug nuts at the 1849 01:21:52,860 --> 01:21:50,380 end I knew we could use the word bug 1850 01:21:58,160 --> 01:21:52,870 nuts at some point in this I always try 1851 01:22:01,230 --> 01:21:58,170 I always that's you know you you have 1852 01:22:02,510 --> 01:22:01,240 you won five grades yeah me I'm going 1853 01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:02,520 with them 1854 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:05,920 I'm gonna go with a three Gray's out it 1855 01:22:11,130 --> 01:22:08,530 okay on this one it was enjoyable 1856 01:22:13,380 --> 01:22:11,140 suspenseful a couple good jump scares um 1857 01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:13,390 but it was like you said it was pretty 1858 01:22:18,660 --> 01:22:17,110 cliche and it we relied heavily on all 1859 01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:18,670 the films that came before it 1860 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:23,110 I think yes yes oh I I definitely I'd 1861 01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:24,970 recommend this to people just looking 1862 01:22:35,610 --> 01:22:32,320 for a fun scary alien film that's like 1863 01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:35,620 my it even in one my heart that I like I 1864 01:22:43,290 --> 01:22:41,650 have Hulu live TV no big deal and all I 1865 01:22:46,380 --> 01:22:43,300 was able to watch this because it's 1866 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:46,390 available on demand through who live TV 1867 01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:49,210 through sci-fi and while while the 1868 01:22:53,850 --> 01:22:51,450 sci-fi channel has some become something 1869 01:22:57,330 --> 01:22:53,860 markedly different than what it was when 1870 01:22:59,760 --> 01:22:57,340 I was growing up it was fun to what like 1871 01:23:02,400 --> 01:22:59,770 when I was in grade school and stuff 1872 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:02,410 like that Saturday afternoons when I 1873 01:23:06,060 --> 01:23:03,730 would have nothing to do 1874 01:23:09,060 --> 01:23:06,070 yeah put on sci-fi and I usually had it 1875 01:23:11,370 --> 01:23:09,070 on some cheesy sometimes not so great 1876 01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:11,380 sometimes like cult favorite horror 1877 01:23:14,670 --> 01:23:12,910 movies and stuff like that 1878 01:23:16,170 --> 01:23:14,680 so there was something a little bit like 1879 01:23:19,290 --> 01:23:16,180 heartwarming about that to be able to 1880 01:23:20,910 --> 01:23:19,300 sit down and watch a movie that I ended 1881 01:23:24,900 --> 01:23:20,920 up thinking was so-so but like a fun 1882 01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:24,910 kind of cheesy horror movie and it said 1883 01:23:33,810 --> 01:23:26,560 sci-fi right in the bottom of the corner 1884 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:33,820 and I was like in this - absolutely man 1885 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:35,890 I mean it brings me back to the days of 1886 01:23:39,990 --> 01:23:38,290 like Mystery Science Theater 3000 and 1887 01:23:42,180 --> 01:23:40,000 watching that on earth Saturday and 1888 01:23:43,980 --> 01:23:42,190 Sunday mornings like you definitely see 1889 01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:43,990 this movie eventually making it to like 1890 01:23:52,770 --> 01:23:51,040 RiffTrax oh yeah no it wasn't but yeah I 1891 01:23:55,980 --> 01:23:52,780 could see them finding a lot of fodder 1892 01:23:58,740 --> 01:23:55,990 in there to deal with I think when it 1893 01:24:01,740 --> 01:23:58,750 comes down to it when it comes to the 1894 01:24:03,630 --> 01:24:01,750 movie called dark skies I would suggest 1895 01:24:07,740 --> 01:24:03,640 people go watch dark skies that 1896 01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:07,750 television series or or I had another 1897 01:24:14,370 --> 01:24:11,520 guy on the show who made this this 1898 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:14,380 homemade it was literally the first 1899 01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:16,810 found footage film ever made long before 1900 01:24:20,490 --> 01:24:18,490 Blair Witch and everything else that 1901 01:24:23,250 --> 01:24:20,500 came before it it was called incident 1902 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:23,260 sorry it was called mcpherson tape and 1903 01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:26,050 it was a home video of a family during 1904 01:24:34,290 --> 01:24:28,960 Thanksgiving and their home gets invaded 1905 01:24:37,230 --> 01:24:34,300 by aliens and they get abducted go on 1906 01:24:40,020 --> 01:24:37,240 YouTube McPhearson tape type it in and 1907 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:40,030 then UPN actually remade it into their 1908 01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:43,090 own version directed by the same guy 1909 01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:45,520 Dean Alioto he's a good friend of mine 1910 01:24:51,810 --> 01:24:48,490 and UFO researcher and a filmmaker and 1911 01:24:54,060 --> 01:24:51,820 he made this is a funny cool I'll go 1912 01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:54,070 through it quick but he made this movie 1913 01:24:59,340 --> 01:24:57,130 unlike little to no money he brought it 1914 01:25:01,380 --> 01:24:59,350 to the distributor and the distributors 1915 01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:01,390 place burnt down to the ground and they 1916 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:05,970 lost like the entire film somehow 1917 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:09,730 somebody got hold of it before this 1918 01:25:15,060 --> 01:25:12,970 happened and it started making the 1919 01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:15,070 rounds in the UFO community someone put 1920 01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:16,480 it out there and said this is an 1921 01:25:22,140 --> 01:25:18,670 authentic home video of a family getting 1922 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:22,150 abducted by aliens that's a dude for 1923 01:25:26,730 --> 01:25:23,890 like 20 years this movie was going 1924 01:25:28,290 --> 01:25:26,740 around you know the conspiracy realms 1925 01:25:30,930 --> 01:25:28,300 and the without this dudes knowledge 1926 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:30,940 yeah he had no idea he had absolutely no 1927 01:25:37,890 --> 01:25:35,170 idea and then um somebody contacted him 1928 01:25:41,700 --> 01:25:37,900 eventually and was like hey man that 1929 01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:41,710 movie you made like it's huge it's 1930 01:25:46,710 --> 01:25:44,250 actually like a big thing in these niche 1931 01:25:49,620 --> 01:25:46,720 communities of like conspiracy nuts and 1932 01:25:51,540 --> 01:25:49,630 UFO people and he was like oh my god are 1933 01:25:54,170 --> 01:25:51,550 you kidding me he's like well I need 1934 01:25:58,140 --> 01:25:54,180 them to know it's not real so then he's 1935 01:26:01,020 --> 01:25:58,150 telling people and then upn remade it 1936 01:26:05,370 --> 01:26:01,030 literally a shot-for-shot remake of it 1937 01:26:07,410 --> 01:26:05,380 with Dean and directing it with like 1938 01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:07,420 actual actors and stuff not to say the 1939 01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:09,040 animation the original weren't real act 1940 01:26:15,530 --> 01:26:10,320 no 1941 01:26:17,419 --> 01:26:15,540 UPN version on television when I was a 1942 01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:17,429 kid and it scared the living daylights 1943 01:26:22,490 --> 01:26:20,730 out of me and then I went original which 1944 01:26:25,490 --> 01:26:22,500 is even scarier because it looks even 1945 01:26:26,959 --> 01:26:25,500 more raw in real so definitely I suggest 1946 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:26,969 people go check that out if you want 1947 01:26:32,089 --> 01:26:30,449 like a good salary abduction have there 1948 01:26:34,459 --> 01:26:32,099 been people in the UFO community that 1949 01:26:37,310 --> 01:26:34,469 have tried to say that he is just trying 1950 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:37,320 to cover up what is a real home video oh 1951 01:26:45,649 --> 01:26:43,290 absolutely it doesn't matter what he 1952 01:26:47,629 --> 01:26:45,659 says or how you know I mean I can 1953 01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:47,639 literally like look at the actor and 1954 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:50,610 point to them and put put you send you a 1955 01:26:54,859 --> 01:26:53,250 link to his IMDB page and he is still 1956 01:26:58,399 --> 01:26:54,869 making movies today so he did not get 1957 01:27:01,129 --> 01:26:58,409 abducted by aliens he's not miss amazing 1958 01:27:03,589 --> 01:27:01,139 but you know that's the lengths people 1959 01:27:05,930 --> 01:27:03,599 will go to believe these things and sure 1960 01:27:09,189 --> 01:27:05,940 yeah I definitely suggest checking that 1961 01:27:12,260 --> 01:27:09,199 out too but um before we go Andrew I 1962 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:12,270 gotta ask you what do you got coming 1963 01:27:18,169 --> 01:27:14,730 next I know you're the podcast is on a 1964 01:27:20,540 --> 01:27:18,179 little hiatus but um what comes next for 1965 01:27:24,770 --> 01:27:20,550 you and where can we find everything 1966 01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:24,780 you're up to I you can still I post 1967 01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:29,040 things on black man's Facebook page I've 1968 01:27:35,209 --> 01:27:30,840 been doing these since I've been social 1969 01:27:37,550 --> 01:27:35,219 distancing I've been doing these cold 1970 01:27:39,950 --> 01:27:37,560 reads where like throughout the weekdays 1971 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:39,960 or as many days in a row as I can I will 1972 01:27:45,740 --> 01:27:43,050 cold read from something that I have in 1973 01:27:46,129 --> 01:27:45,750 my house basically or that I can find 1974 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:46,139 online 1975 01:27:50,780 --> 01:27:49,290 I like chapters from books I was reading 1976 01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:50,790 something the other day called slash of 1977 01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:55,170 the Titans which is about the the road 1978 01:27:59,209 --> 01:27:57,449 to the Freddy vs. Jason movie and all 1979 01:28:00,890 --> 01:27:59,219 the different scripts and screenwriters 1980 01:28:03,379 --> 01:28:00,900 that were involved in that and cool 1981 01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:03,389 process great book to track down if you 1982 01:28:06,950 --> 01:28:04,560 ever get the chance so I've been trying 1983 01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:06,960 to move those over to the Facebook page 1984 01:28:10,339 --> 01:28:08,730 for halfway it's on a black man as well 1985 01:28:11,959 --> 01:28:10,349 I think you could probably like if you 1986 01:28:15,350 --> 01:28:11,969 search me you should be able to find 1987 01:28:17,899 --> 01:28:15,360 that on my facebook because I think it's 1988 01:28:19,310 --> 01:28:17,909 public right now that might change at 1989 01:28:21,740 --> 01:28:19,320 one point we'll see what happens 1990 01:28:23,959 --> 01:28:21,750 go onto my Instagram half-white some of 1991 01:28:27,950 --> 01:28:23,969 the black man I recently 1992 01:28:29,569 --> 01:28:27,960 put out a challenge for people if you're 1993 01:28:30,739 --> 01:28:29,579 a performer like myself or even if 1994 01:28:33,649 --> 01:28:30,749 you're not a performer and you're 1995 01:28:35,180 --> 01:28:33,659 currently distancing I've been doing 1996 01:28:37,729 --> 01:28:35,190 something called social system 1997 01:28:39,140 --> 01:28:37,739 distancing self tape which is and that's 1998 01:28:40,669 --> 01:28:39,150 the hashtag it's hashtag social 1999 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:40,679 distancing self tape where people sit 2000 01:28:45,310 --> 01:28:42,210 down and they still have tape themselves 2001 01:28:47,689 --> 01:28:45,320 doing a two to three minute monologue 2002 01:28:49,790 --> 01:28:47,699 just for fun just to get more art out 2003 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:49,800 there while all this is going on 2004 01:28:53,299 --> 01:28:51,690 also there's things that are still 2005 01:28:54,410 --> 01:28:53,309 coming down the pipeline but I wrote a 2006 01:28:55,759 --> 01:28:54,420 comic book at one point that you can 2007 01:28:57,500 --> 01:28:55,769 read on my website half way clown with 2008 01:28:59,299 --> 01:28:57,510 black mancom it was drawn by the great 2009 01:29:02,060 --> 01:28:59,309 joe cavity one of my favorite people of 2010 01:29:03,709 --> 01:29:02,070 all the time and yeah just go through 2011 01:29:05,299 --> 01:29:03,719 the half wait some of that black man is 2012 01:29:08,060 --> 01:29:05,309 on a hiatus but definitely if you liked 2013 01:29:09,620 --> 01:29:08,070 this episode go back and look at some of 2014 01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:09,630 the shocked overs find the ones that 2015 01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:12,239 Ryan has I think Ryan's done one every 2016 01:29:16,009 --> 01:29:14,159 year almost there might have been like 2017 01:29:18,500 --> 01:29:16,019 one year where I think you didn't do one 2018 01:29:23,689 --> 01:29:18,510 but I had like one year where I got 2019 01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:23,699 married in October and dario's I know 2020 01:29:28,310 --> 01:29:26,639 right there but there's there's great 2021 01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:28,320 episodes from that that's something that 2022 01:29:32,540 --> 01:29:31,170 I absolutely love we've had some great 2023 01:29:35,270 --> 01:29:32,550 people there or if you just want to 2024 01:29:37,509 --> 01:29:35,280 listen to news from a time that was like 2025 01:29:40,819 --> 01:29:37,519 happier maybe even like two months ago 2026 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:40,829 just go and check out the website love 2027 01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:43,530 it super proud of it there's a lot of 2028 01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:46,110 fun to be had from them and just keep 2029 01:29:49,489 --> 01:29:47,489 your eyes peeled I'll pop up here and 2030 01:29:51,319 --> 01:29:49,499 there check out my episode I was like 2031 01:29:52,729 --> 01:29:51,329 you I was on an episode of well you were 2032 01:29:54,620 --> 01:29:52,739 on several but I was on an episode of 2033 01:29:58,729 --> 01:29:54,630 mysteries decoded if you want to see me 2034 01:30:03,319 --> 01:29:58,739 go chase Bigfoot only the gentleman 2035 01:30:04,700 --> 01:30:03,329 named Todd standing and I know a lot of 2036 01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:04,710 people have different feelings about 2037 01:30:07,489 --> 01:30:06,090 Todd and I understand that he actually 2038 01:30:15,169 --> 01:30:07,499 has a nickname that I heard recently 2039 01:30:16,819 --> 01:30:15,179 which I was not aware of before even 2040 01:30:19,219 --> 01:30:16,829 though he has gone to great lengths to 2041 01:30:21,859 --> 01:30:19,229 talk [\h__\h] about me since the episode has 2042 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:21,869 come out I'm not gonna sink to his level 2043 01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:23,010 we'll put it that way 2044 01:30:27,950 --> 01:30:26,159 but you you should definitely watch the 2045 01:30:29,450 --> 01:30:27,960 episode was a lot of fun love Jennifer 2046 01:30:29,930 --> 01:30:29,460 Marshall the host of that show she's a 2047 01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:29,940 badass 2048 01:30:36,700 --> 01:30:32,130 and it was a lot of fun to shoot 2049 01:30:38,649 --> 01:30:36,710 regardless of the aftermath 2050 01:30:45,610 --> 01:30:38,659 well I got that did you find Bigfoot 2051 01:30:47,860 --> 01:30:45,620 well we'll leave that watch that at CW 2052 01:30:49,270 --> 01:30:47,870 c-calm it's free to stream yeah you can 2053 01:30:51,820 --> 01:30:49,280 watch it for free yeah man 2054 01:30:53,169 --> 01:30:51,830 might as well with all this episode's - 2055 01:30:56,350 --> 01:30:53,179 yeah exactly 2056 01:30:59,470 --> 01:30:56,360 awesome man well I gotta thank you for 2057 01:31:01,720 --> 01:30:59,480 coming on today please be safe be 2058 01:31:04,540 --> 01:31:01,730 healthy and yeah thanks for joining me 2059 01:31:06,610 --> 01:31:04,550 again on somewhere in the dark skies I 2060 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:06,620 was my absolute pleasure my brother 2061 01:31:09,290 --> 01:31:08,210 loved to you and Jane and please you 2062 01:31:48,790 --> 01:31:09,300 stay safe as well 2063 01:31:50,930 --> 01:31:48,800 [Music] 2064 01:31:53,370 --> 01:31:50,940 [Applause] 2065 01:31:55,140 --> 01:31:53,380 somewhere in the skies is produced by 2066 01:31:57,330 --> 01:31:55,150 Third Kind productions in association 2067 01:31:58,860 --> 01:31:57,340 with the entertainment one podcast 2068 01:32:01,260 --> 01:31:58,870 network to learn more visit 2069 01:32:03,300 --> 01:32:01,270 Entertainment one podcast calm in 2070 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:03,310 reality UFOs are seen by people from all 2071 01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:05,050 walks of life every day all around the 2072 01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:06,250 world they've also been officially 2073 01:32:09,060 --> 01:32:07,930 investigated by the US government and by 2074 01:32:10,950 --> 01:32:09,070 governments of several other countries 2075 01:32:12,480 --> 01:32:10,960 too that's just a small element of what 2076 01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:12,490 makes the strange UFO topic so 2077 01:32:15,900 --> 01:32:14,110 incredibly fascinating and fun to 2078 01:32:18,270 --> 01:32:15,910 explore that's what we do on the UFO 2079 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:18,280 podcast unknown I'm Jason McClellan and 2080 01:32:21,630 --> 01:32:19,810 I invite you to explore the weird and 2081 01:32:22,950 --> 01:32:21,640 wonderful world of UFOs with me and my 2082 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